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    6 Jacksonville police officers fired only one day after receving them, for conduct unbecoming an officer

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - Six rookie Jacksonville police officers were recently fired, stripped of their badges only one day after receiving them.

    The officers had been sworn in as probationary officers on Thursday. They were kicked off the force Friday. The specific allegations against them are not yet known.
    According to statement from Jacksonville Sheriff's Office's director of personnel and professional standards Rick Lewis, an internal investigation was launched "based on a single complaint made by a recruit, alleging improper conduct."
    He stated that in the course of the initial investigation it became clear that the incident first reported might not be the only occurrence in that recruit class, and the JSO Internal Affairs Unit was called to investigate.
    As a result of the investigation, Lewis recommended that Sheriff John Rutherford separate six recruits from service. The six were fired on Friday on charges of conduct unbecoming an officer.
    Although the internal investigation has been completed with the agency and has become public record, JSO told Channel 4 the documents were not available for immediate release to the public but may be available on Wednesday.
    Fraternal Order of Police President Nelson Cuba said typical recruits train for at least six months and the sheriff's offices spends a minimum of $50,000-$60,000 per person to train the recruits.
    Cuba said he has not been privy to the information surrounding the investigation, but he said the Fraternal Order of Police would be heavily involved in helping the recruits if what he has heard turns out to be true.
    "It is unfortunate that we had to take this action. Our standards of integrity, honesty and excellence will not be compromised, especially as we work with men and women to train them to protect and serve the community," Lewis said in a written statement.

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    It would be nice if they let us all know what the hell they did to warrant dismissal. Sounds like the FOP is going to have its hands full.


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    Sounds like the graduation party might have gone a little overboard maybe? Who knows?
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    WOW!! They are idiots.

    Recruits Fired For 'Unbecoming Conduct' - Jacksonville- msnbc.com

    Recruits Fired For 'Unbecoming Conduct'

    Complainant, 5 Others Fired After Internal Affairs Investigation

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    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - Allegations of sexual jokes, harassment and inappropriate touching by a female police recruit substantiated by an internal affairs investigation led to the firings of six rookie officers -- including the woman who filed the complaint.

    The six officers were sworn in as probationary officers on Thursday. On Friday, they were dismissed after an investigation of sexual harassment at the police academy sustained charges of unbecoming conduct.

    Police began investigating after Recruit Holly Ward complained about the behavior of eight classmates during their training at the police academy.

    After the investigation, Sheriff John Rutherford followed the recommendation that six of the recruits -- including Ward -- be terminated

    In addition to Ward, Recruits M.F. Gresham, D.J. John, J.R. Adams, T.J. Brown and T. J. Reimer were terminated.

    According to the internal affairs' report, Ward told investigators of a number of instances of harassment that began in November, but she did not report it for six months.

    In one instance, Ward said that during physical training on how to overcome an attacker, a male recruit squeezed both her breasts.

    Ward told detectives that one male recruit once said: "She knows her place; she's a woman; she's aware."

    Later on the gun range, Ward said she was asked if her husband knew about a relationship with a fellow recruit and was told, "Everybody knows about everything." He then told her that someone paid him $5 to ask her that question.

    Ward is separated from her husband. Other recruits told investigators that Ward had admitted to having an affair with a married classmate at the police academy.

    One officer told investigators, "The sheriff came in to speak to the their class one day and he was talking about having integrity. The sheriff said to them if they were to cheat on their spouse how could he trust them, at which point several classmates mumbled "mmm--hmm" in attempt to make a silent statement about Ward."

    Some of those investigated by internal affairs admitted to various levels of joking around -- one said making "smart ass" statements to Ward -- but also said she was open about her sexual activities and had flirted with some of her fellow recruits.

    In a sworn statement, one recruit told investigators that Ward brought photos of herself in a bikini and topless and showed them to classmates.

    During the defensive tactics exercise, a different recruit said Ward told him: "It's OK, you can touch my boobs. It's no problem."


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    Damn. Did they recruit high school kids or something?
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    I may the minority on this, but it sounds like six stupid people will no longer be wearing badges. It sounds like they should have been let go long before graduation from the academy too.

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    I tried to upload the internal report, but failed. The way I see it, when a department requires a four year degree, and no life experience, you end up getting some children on the street. You get out of high school, go to college, drink and party and come home, go the academy, and become a police officer. Some of them are still kids, and even though they meet the requirements, that doesn't mean they are ready to be the police.

    The Sheriff is very big on integrity, as well we all should be. With that said, some of the best officers on the street have had extra marital affairs, been divorced, etc... Yes, cheating on one’s spouse is against the law. But the heart has no boundaries, and people do what people do. We are all people too. I'd love to say that I'm a saint and never done anything wrong, but I'd be lying. I think we all would. Maybe there are a few officers out there that are perfect, but I don't know one.

    I tell recruits and rookies the same thing I was told when I went to Paris Island. Do what you're told. Keep your mouth shut, and try to be invisible, and when you are out of boot camp, the academy, and you've done your FTO training and finished your year probation, then you can talk and have an opinion. Until then, follow my three rules. Everybody you work with or come in contact with should be a Ma'm or a Sir. You'll have plenty of time to create your image after you've done your time as a FNG.

    I know what they did, and I know the whole story, both written and by eye witnesses. Some of those fired (they did not lose their state certification, just their job with JSO) will make good officers in the future. Some should find a different line of work. They know who they are. We are shorthanded, and we are losing experienced officers every month to retirement. We are filling the holes as quickly as possible. We have been lucky to get some officers from other departments. We have some excellent ex military joining the ranks. We will continue to be a Five Star Accredited Agency, and strive to be an example to other departments. With 1600 officers, this is just a small, unfortunate setback, and we will get through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSO85360 View Post
    I tried to upload the internal report, but failed. The way I see it, when a department requires a four year degree, and no life experience, you end up getting some children on the street. You get out of high school, go to college, drink and party and come home, go the academy, and become a police officer. Some of them are still kids, and even though they meet the requirements, that doesn't mean they are ready to be the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSO85360 View Post
    Yes, cheating on one’s spouse is against the law.
    Really???? There's a law in Florida forbidding extra-marital affairs? Just sex, or do other things constitute a violation of the law?

    I guess that's cool though. Give even more reason, other than one's supposed love, to not cheat on one's spouse.

    BTW, how much does your dept. pay? hehehe If things continue to go to shit here, we may have about 27 officers looking for jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaFuzz View Post
    Really???? There's a law in Florida forbidding extra-marital affairs? Just sex, or do other things constitute a violation of the law?

    I guess that's cool though. Give even more reason, other than one's supposed love, to not cheat on one's spouse.

    BTW, how much does your dept. pay? hehehe If things continue to go to shit here, we may have about 27 officers looking for jobs.

    Same here in NC. In fact, it is probably with a lot of the southern states. And officers do get fired over it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaFuzz View Post
    Really???? There's a law in Florida forbidding extra-marital affairs? Just sex, or do other things constitute a violation of the law?

    I guess that's cool though. Give even more reason, other than one's supposed love, to not cheat on one's spouse.

    BTW, how much does your dept. pay? hehehe If things continue to go to shit here, we may have about 27 officers looking for jobs.
    It's still illegal in Virginia, too:
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    Wow.

    The not saying anything for six months is rather telling to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaFuzz View Post
    Really???? There's a law in Florida forbidding extra-marital affairs? Just sex, or do other things constitute a violation of the law?

    I guess that's cool though. Give even more reason, other than one's supposed love, to not cheat on one's spouse.

    BTW, how much does your dept. pay? hehehe If things continue to go to shit here, we may have about 27 officers looking for jobs.
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    CHAPTER 798
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    798.01 Living in open adultery.
    798.02 Lewd and lascivious behavior.
    798.01 Living in open adultery.--Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section.
    History.--s. 1, ch. 1986, 1874; RS 2595; GS 3518; RGS 5406; CGL 7549; s. 772, ch. 71-136.
    798.02 Lewd and lascivious behavior.--If any man and woman, not being married to each other, lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabit together, or if any man or woman, married or unmarried, engages in open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
    History.--s. 6, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2596; GS 3519; RGS 5407; CGL 7550; s. 773, ch. 71-136.
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    Geesh JSO...for being such a darn big dept in a pretty good sized city..you all dont pay much. Or maybe that is for new recruits and not already certified officers with experience. I think I'll stay down here in po-dunk for awhile.

    And I lived by the dont talk or offer an opinion rules for the first year...I am sure there are those that wish I still did.
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    It's actually the best paying agency around the NE part of FL. But you're right, it still isn't enough, especially for the educational requirements needed to even get an interview. There could be some officers out there with 10 years experience, but very little or no college, and they couldn't even get through the door. There is some special acceptance deals where if you have four years police/military, and sixty credits (non-specific), you can apply. Most of the guys make their money working 10-60 jobs, or overtime. It's a five 12 hour days five off, four 12 days four off cycle, so you have plenty of time to work extra jobs. I know some guys that make more money doing 10-60 then they make with their regular paycheck.

    On another note, three police involved shootings in as many weeks. Public crys" JSO is out of control". When there are no police involved shootings, just civilians shooting each other, they scream "where is JSO when we need them". Pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    And you're not mean! And I'm definitely not a sissy!
    The six o'clock rule
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    I tell them to use this little test before they decide to do something. If they were to do what they're thinking about, and it became the lead story on the six o'clock news, would they be proud? Would their department be proud, and would their family be proud? It's a simple way to live your life both personally and professionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSO85360 View Post
    On another note, three police involved shootings in as many weeks. Public crys" JSO is out of control". When there are no police involved shootings, just civilians shooting each other, they scream "where is JSO when we need them". Pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    Well, that's about normal. You just cant please the public...someone is going to complain about SOMETHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSO85360 View Post
    Salary - $36,628; $38,556 after training; $40,752 after successful completion of one year of service from date of hire.
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    CHAPTER 798
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    798.01 Living in open adultery.
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    798.01 Living in open adultery.--Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section.
    History.--s. 1, ch. 1986, 1874; RS 2595; GS 3518; RGS 5406; CGL 7549; s. 772, ch. 71-136.
    798.02 Lewd and lascivious behavior.--If any man and woman, not being married to each other, lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabit together, or if any man or woman, married or unmarried, engages in open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
    History.--s. 6, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2596; GS 3519; RGS 5407; CGL 7550; s. 773, ch. 71-136.
    Thanks for the info. Yeah the pay ain't all that great. Would be a pay cut at the same time as having a higher cost of living. Not a good combo. How do the statutes define adultery though? Intercourse? Oral? Kissing? Hugging? Hand holding? Going out to dinner? Etc... Also, what do they consider "open and gross lewdness"? Is that just talking about sex in public? Also the way it sounds....if a man and woman don't cohabit, then they can be lewd and lascivious? Or is there a separate statute for that? Is that saying that an unmarried couple living together cant have sex? Sorry for all the questions. It doesn't apply to me anyway but I'm just curious about it.
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