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07-13-09, 11:45 PM #1
America's next police car? GM to rebadge Pontiac G8 as Chevrolet Caprice
America's next police car? GM to rebadge Pontiac G8 as Chevrolet Caprice
Photo of 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP by GM
In a reversal, General Motors plans to resurrect the Pontiac G8 and keep it in its revised lineup under a new, but familiar, name: Chevrolet Caprice.
Confirmation came in an interview with Bob Lutz, just brought back into GM's top management team, according to Automobile magazine. "The last time we looked at (the G8), we decided that we would continue to import it as a Chevrolet," Lutz is quoted as saying. "It is kind of too good to waste."
Too good to waste because the G8 was unique -- a powerful, rear-wheel-drive sedan that could not only appeal to traditional red-blooded American enthusiasts, but the police car market as well.
With Ford's Crown Victoria aging, and no replacement apparently on the way, the rear-wheel-drive sedan market was almost entirely being abandoned to the Dodge Charger.
G8 is built in Australia by GM's Holden subsidiary. Down under, it's sold as the Holden Commodore. Holden sells its sedans in the Middle East already as the Chevrolet Caprice and Lumina. BusinessWeekreports that the G8 already had decent sales and that changing to the Chevy badge could only increase them - not to mention the police market angle. It could be a good profit vehicle for GM as well -- G8 starts at about $28,000.
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07-13-09, 11:52 PM #2
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07-14-09, 01:04 AM #3
In other words, despite Obama owning our company, we realize that rear wheel drive performance cars still sell.I'm your huckleberry...
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07-14-09, 01:12 AM #4
Does it have the body on frame? I still think that is the way to go
07-14-09, 02:52 AM #5
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07-14-09, 04:29 AM #7
You know - I just really couldn't give two shits less how fast my car is. I want it to be big enough that once you throw a rollbar, cage, radios, long gun racks, and MDT in it that you can cram a prisoner in the back and still move the seat back far enough that my knees don't hit the dash and my head scrape the ceiling liner. Oh - and it being durable enough to bounce off an occasional curb without having to go down for service afterward would be nice.
Fast cars are great for OHP troopers - I work in a small city where if I'm going over 100 I need to rethink what the hell I'm doing.
07-14-09, 05:18 AM #8Somebody Please, what the hell is that smell?
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07-14-09, 07:41 AM #9
I got into a short pursuit the other night where the guy had a good block and a half head start on me. I was in a CVPI, he was in a V8 hemi Grand Cherokee. By the time I got the info from the parties flagging me down, telling me that the guy leaving was just fondling one of their daughters, the guy was a block and a half and two corners away. I started after him, but there was no way I could get closer than a block away from him on the one straightaway we hit after rounding a corner. A few seconds after he hit the straightaway, he went into a field and bailed on foot. I was just coming out of the corner and punching it, but my 2008 CVPI's acceleration is a joke, even with OD turned off. I wasn't any match for his hemi SUV once we're both out of the corner. I never even got close enought to get a good description other than a white shirt. I guarantee you though that the odds would have been a bit more towards my favor if I were in my assigned car which is an 07 Hemi V8 Charger with the low-geared rear end. Those cars are generally pieces of shit, but you can't dispute their speed. You can be damn sure I would have gotten close enough to get a description, a direction of travel, and a quicker broadcast for setting up a perimeter.
It's bullshit that we're still using, and tolerating, a big 4.6L V8 that's only putting out 250 horses at the upper RPMs, and that's got less than 300ft/lb of torque. That just ain't enough after you've loaded a patrol car down with a couple hundred pounds of equipment. Hell, my Nissan coupe's 3.5L V6 puts out 270 horses with around 260ft/lbs of torque in a 3300 lb car. I took it to a local test and tune drag and did 0-60 in 6.2 secs on shitty stock tires at altitude. So I'm thinking...what...maybe 5.8 secs at sea level? OK, so it's also a 6-speed manual, but good luck getting anywhere near those numbers in a CVPI...even without the added weight of police equipment."If anything worthwhile comes of this tragedy, it should be the realization by every citizen that often the only thing that stands between them and losing everything they hold dear... is the man wearing a badge." -- Ronald Reagan, in the wake of the deaths of 4 CHP troopers in the Newhall Incident, 1970
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07-14-09, 09:19 AM #10With Ford's Crown Victoria aging, and no replacement apparently on the way, the rear-wheel-drive sedan market was almost entirely being abandoned to the Dodge Charger.
I don't know if they are still planning this. I just read a recent article they were considering the front wheel Taurus which will knock them out of the police business. So maybe the quoted article is correct. Too many agencies will be unwilling to retrain everyone on driving front wheel drive, the Charger will become the dominant police car.
But I'll echo 121's comments. These things are pigs and definitely need better acceleration and higher top end. My '08 has the 119 speed limiter on it. WTF? I routinely hit that on the highway at night. Stupid.Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.
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07-14-09, 02:41 PM #11
07-15-09, 11:16 AM #12
Who cares.....I want a Carbon!CHIRP! CHIRP!
07-15-09, 12:39 PM #13-=Twan007
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07-15-09, 01:47 PM #14
My father-in-law has a new G8. It has pretty good handling and decent speed, but it seems sluggish in the first couple of gears. A little research and I found a tuner kit for it that is supposed to solve the problem.
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07-15-09, 11:20 PM #15For the morning will come. Brightly will it shine on the brave and true, kindly upon all who suffer for the cause, glorious upon the tombs of heroes. Thus will shine the dawn.
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