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    Ex UK soldier faces jail for finding a shotgun

    Here's what happens when you follow the strict letter of the law. Same as the school food fight thread, and other examples of zero tolerance.

    Ex-soldier faces jail for handing in gun

    Friday, November 13, 2009, 13:45

    A former soldier who handed a discarded shotgun in to police faces at least five years imprisonment for "doing his duty".

    Paul Clarke, 27, was found guilty of possessing a firearm at Guildford Crown Court on Tuesday after finding the gun and handing it personally to police officers on March 20 this year.

    The jury took 20 minutes to make its conviction, and Mr Clarke now faces a minimum of five year's imprisonment for handing in the weapon.

    In a statement read out in court, Mr Clarke said: "I didn't think for one moment I would be arrested.

    "I thought it was my duty to hand it in and get it off the streets."

    The court heard how Mr Clarke was on the balcony of his home in Nailsworth Crescent, Merstham, when he spotted a black bin liner at the bottom of his garden.

    In his statement, he said: "I took it indoors and inside found a shorn-off shotgun and two cartridges.

    "I didn't know what to do, so the next morning I rang the Chief Superintendent, Adrian Harper, and asked if I could pop in and see him.
    "At the police station, I took the gun out of the bag and placed it on the table so it was pointing towards the wall."

    Mr Clarke was then arrested immediately for possession of a firearm at Reigate police station, and taken to the cells.

    Defending, Lionel Blackman told the jury Mr Clarke's garden backs onto a public green field, and his garden wall is significantly lower than his neighbours.

    He also showed jurors a leaflet printed by Surrey Police explaining to citizens what they can do at a police station, which included "reporting found firearms".

    Quizzing officer Garnett, who arrested Mr Clarke, he asked: "Are you aware of any notice issued by Surrey Police, or any publicity given to, telling citizens that if they find a firearm the only thing they should do is not touch it, report it by telephone, and not take it into a police station?"

    To which, Mr Garnett replied: "No, I don't believe so."

    Prosecuting, Brian Stalk, explained to the jury that possession of a firearm was a "strict liability" charge therefore Mr Clarke's allegedly honest intent was irrelevant.

    Just by having the gun in his possession he was guilty of the charge, and has no defence in law against it, he added.

    But despite this, Mr Blackman urged members of the jury to consider how they would respond if they found a gun.

    He said: "This is a very small case with a very big principle.

    "You could be walking to a railway station on the way to work and find a firearm in a bin in the park.

    "Is it unreasonable to take it to the police station?"

    Paul Clarke will be sentenced on December 11.

    Judge Christopher Critchlow said: "This is an unusual case, but in law there is no dispute that Mr Clarke has no defence to this charge.

    "The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant."
    Ex-soldier faces jail for handing in gun

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    Those Brits would undoubtably soil their royal skivvies if they got a peek inside my gun safe.

    . . . and my glove box.

    . . . and the trunk of my car.

    . . . AND on my right hip.

    . . . AND a couple of other places.


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    I hate to say it, but I think Britian is done for as a superpower and as a legitimate country
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    This is the same place that loathes locking up real criminals. I guess you lock up the law abiding to cover up all the mistakes with the real crooks.

    A youth in Manchester rapes a seven-year-old boy.

    He gets severely punished - with the imposition of a three-year community rehabilitation order.

    He walks out of court and eight days later he kidnaps a five-year-old boy and rapes him.
    Ooops!

    At least this time he's been banged up, on an IPP with a minimum of, er, two years and 359 days.

    Anyone care to speculate on how long he'll serve - or on the odds that, once released again, he will rape someone else, and possibly kill them?

    Let's be clear about this: the police did their bit in nicking the teenager first time round; the only reason that five-year-old's life is now in pieces is because of the judge in the first case.
    Even more mad judges at: The Policeman's Blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    I hate to say it, but I think Britain is done for as a superpower and as a legitimate country
    Exactly. Remind me to never move to Britain.


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    I guess anyone well-intentioned should have just left the shotgun alone until a criminal got a hold of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    I guess anyone well-intentioned should have just left the shotgun alone until a criminal got a hold of it.

    Jenna for the win.
    SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM

    "It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
    -Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"

    Far from being a handicap to command, compassion is the measure of it. For unless one values the lives of his soldiers and is tormented by their ordeals , he is unfit to command.
    -General Omar Bradley, United States Army

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    No good deed goes unpunished - The next person who finds a gun should just keep it, since the sentence is the same.

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