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02-10-10, 07:21 PM #1
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Pastor arrested for talking about God at the mall
Imagine getting arrested for just striking up a conversation about religion in public.
That’s what happened to California resident Matthew Snatchko in 2006 when the youth pastor initiated a conversation about God with three shoppers at the Roseville Galleria mall.
The women gave Snatchko permission to broach the subject, but a nearby store employee said they "looked nervous," so he ordered the evangelist to leave. After Snatchko refused, mall security arrested him.
"He was put in handcuffs and hauled down to the mall’s security station and later booked at the local jail," said Snatchko’s attorney Matthew McReynolds of the Pacific Justice Institute, a legal defense organization specializing in the defense of religious freedom.
Snatchko was later released and never charged with a crime, but he and the Justice Institute decided to challenge the constitutionality of Roseville Galleria's restrictions on conversations about topics such as religion and politics.
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Man Sues California Mall After Guard Arrests Him for Having Conversation About God - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.comNo one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
"The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".
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02-10-10, 07:27 PM #2
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The last person that will ever put handcuffs on me is a security guard. Actually how does mall security "arrest" anyone?
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02-10-10, 09:28 PM #3
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Not sure how Cali works, but in South Carolina a security guard has the same powers of arrest on the property they patrol as a deputy sheriff.
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02-10-10, 10:29 PM #4
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In CA, Peace Officers and even security guards are required to take a class titled Arrest and Firearms otherwise known as P.C. 832 (P.C. stands for penal code) This is where officers in the state get their arrest authority. Originally Posted by Five-0
PC 832 Arrest and Firearms Course
Glad I could be of service, I'm also glad I don't work in CA anymore!Just because your sign off after you're shift is done, doesn't mean that it's over and put blinders on. You're a cop 24/7 wether you like it or not. If thats something you can't handle, you should find a new line of work!
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02-10-10, 11:41 PM #5
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Not surprised.
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02-10-10, 11:42 PM #6
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Anyone can make an arrest in Washington for a breech of peace misdemeanor committed in their presence or a felony upon probable cause.
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02-10-10, 11:58 PM #7
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It doesn't sound like he was arrested for talking about God. He was arrested because he refused to leave the store, that's trespassing.
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02-11-10, 12:19 AM #8
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Thats what I get out of it. However I understand that some people want others to find a god or what ever. I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with is idiots trying to force feed that crap down my throat. Originally Posted by Xiphos
Just because your sign off after you're shift is done, doesn't mean that it's over and put blinders on. You're a cop 24/7 wether you like it or not. If thats something you can't handle, you should find a new line of work!
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02-11-10, 08:42 AM #9
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Originally Posted by Xiphos
I agree.
I mirrored my thread titled from the original article title.No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
"The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".
We lucky few, we band of brothers. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
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02-11-10, 09:17 AM #10
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Originally Posted by jmur5074
Yeah the title was designed to sale not to tell the truth. Gotta love the media.
Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." -- Frederic Bastiat
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02-11-10, 12:28 PM #11
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Oh the article was terrible about it, I figured that's what you did. Can't blame you for journalistic ethics. Originally Posted by jmur5074
What's that? 
That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.
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02-11-10, 01:06 PM #12
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I was going to take a dig at the particular outlet that story came from, but I'll keep my commie pink mouth shut! Originally Posted by Five-0
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02-11-10, 01:53 PM #13
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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
I was going to take a dig at the particular outlet that story came from, but I'll keep my commie pink mouth shut!
'Bout time you learned your place! Realizing you have a problem is the first step in solving the problem.....
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