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    Pastor arrested for talking about God at the mall

    Imagine getting arrested for just striking up a conversation about religion in public.
    Thatís what happened to California resident Matthew Snatchko in 2006 when the youth pastor initiated a conversation about God with three shoppers at the Roseville Galleria mall.
    The women gave Snatchko permission to broach the subject, but a nearby store employee said they "looked nervous," so he ordered the evangelist to leave. After Snatchko refused, mall security arrested him.
    "He was put in handcuffs and hauled down to the mallís security station and later booked at the local jail," said Snatchkoís attorney Matthew McReynolds of the Pacific Justice Institute, a legal defense organization specializing in the defense of religious freedom.
    Snatchko was later released and never charged with a crime, but he and the Justice Institute decided to challenge the constitutionality of Roseville Galleria's restrictions on conversations about topics such as religion and politics.


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    The last person that will ever put handcuffs on me is a security guard. Actually how does mall security "arrest" anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    The last person that will ever put handcuffs on me is a security guard. Actually how does mall security "arrest" anyone?
    Not sure how Cali works, but in South Carolina a security guard has the same powers of arrest on the property they patrol as a deputy sheriff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    The last person that will ever put handcuffs on me is a security guard. Actually how does mall security "arrest" anyone?
    In CA, Peace Officers and even security guards are required to take a class titled Arrest and Firearms otherwise known as P.C. 832 (P.C. stands for penal code) This is where officers in the state get their arrest authority.

    PC 832 Arrest and Firearms Course

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    It doesn't sound like he was arrested for talking about God. He was arrested because he refused to leave the store, that's trespassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    It doesn't sound like he was arrested for talking about God. He was arrested because he refused to leave the store, that's trespassing.
    Thats what I get out of it. However I understand that some people want others to find a god or what ever. I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with is idiots trying to force feed that crap down my throat.
    Just because your sign off after you're shift is done, doesn't mean that it's over and put blinders on. You're a cop 24/7 wether you like it or not. If thats something you can't handle, you should find a new line of work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    It doesn't sound like he was arrested for talking about God. He was arrested because he refused to leave the store, that's trespassing.

    I agree.

    I mirrored my thread titled from the original article title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmur5074 View Post
    I agree.

    I mirrored my thread titled from the original article title.

    Yeah the title was designed to sale not to tell the truth. Gotta love the media.

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmur5074 View Post
    I agree.

    I mirrored my thread titled from the original article title.
    Oh the article was terrible about it, I figured that's what you did. Can't blame you for journalistic ethics. What's that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Yeah the title was designed to sale not to tell the truth. Gotta love the media.
    I was going to take a dig at the particular outlet that story came from, but I'll keep my commie pink mouth shut!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    I was going to take a dig at the particular outlet that story came from, but I'll keep my commie pink mouth shut!

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