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02-28-10, 10:28 AM #1
Cities Shortening Yellow Traffic Lights for Deadly Profit
Some cities have been shortening yellow lights to nab drivers with a ticket. But studies show that they're raking in the bucks at the expense of public safety.
Reeling through a 21st century addicted to technology and surveillance, citizens may be too overwhelmed to complain of increasing cameras popping up atop red lights at intersections across the nation, most of which are designed to catch them breaking traffic laws. That is, until they're caught in those intersections as the yellow lights unexpectedly change, and cars in front and back of them hit the brakes or punch the gas to avoid tickets. And when they find out those cameras and lights are being gamed, sometimes lethally, in the pursuit of quick profit? Then they get mad, and maybe even, for being used as motorized money pits. "With all of the stories we hear on a daily basis, there is little doubt that the desire for ticket revenue trumps safety concerns," Gary Biller, executive director of the National Motorists Association told AlterNet. "A quick current example is California's governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who a few weeks ago proposed state budget including a proposal to add speed sensors to 500 existing red-light cameras. The reason? Safety wasn't mentioned, but an expected additional annual revenue of $338 million was."
Cities Shortening Yellow Traffic Lights for Deadly Profit | Civil Liberties | AlterNet
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02-28-10, 10:55 AM #2
If they really want to make money, they should just make the lights more complicated by adding more colors to confuse drivers. Morse code could also be fun.
02-28-10, 02:53 PM #3
"Hey Ray, how can we fill these budget gaps?"
"We could put up red light cameras and toy with the timings"
"Brilliant. Say, what blew out the budget in the first place?"
"Public health and safety programs"
Originally Posted by William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons (18 November, 1783)
02-28-10, 04:17 PM #4
So, am I to believe that a government program, pitched to the people as a means to improve their wellbeing, is being administered so as to be self-serving, and is actually defeating its own stated purpose?
10-point bonus for anyone who can name other government programs where this has happened...
... and now they want control of healthcare too.
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02-28-10, 04:32 PM #5Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.
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02-28-10, 04:36 PM #6
02-28-10, 04:41 PM #7
The National Model Traffic Safety Ordinance is the law for cities, counties and states taking federal money. According to it, yellow lights must be 3 seconds long.
If they are spoofing the lights, somebody may get sued.
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02-28-10, 08:05 PM #8
That was combined with a study that showed a four second yellow reduced accidents.
ATS, the company that makes millions from the cameras, has refused to acknowledge that the short light is the issue, because it would reduce their revenue.
Cities (like mine) pay ATS for the pleasure of having the cameras - thousands per month.
If the revenue from the camera goes down, the city cannot afford the camera.I'm your huckleberry...
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02-28-10, 09:08 PM #9
I'm so glad we don't have that shit here.No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
"The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".
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