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    Concealed Handguns In Arizona

    PHOENIX The Arizona House voted Thursday to make the state the third in the nation to allow people to carry concealed weapons without a permit, sending the governor a bill that would allow Arizonans to forego background checks and classes that are now required.
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    I see they also are trying the tenth amendment "produced here" thing like Montana.
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    I am not against the carrying of a firearm. It's just that people who will carry should be properly trained. Having the right to and exercising the right to carry a firearm does not mean a person knows how to legally utilize one. I talk to people all the time here that fully believe they can kill someone for anything from stealing their car to cursing at them.
    My wife and oldest son just recently attended the mandatory firearms class for their permits here. My wife was saying there were some real winners in that class who had some very incorrect beliefs on use of force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    I am not against the carrying of a firearm. It's just that people who will carry should be properly trained. Having the right to and exercising the right to carry a firearm does not mean a person knows how to legally utilize one. I talk to people all the time here that fully believe they can kill someone for anything from stealing their car to cursing at them.
    My wife and oldest son just recently attended the mandatory firearms class for their permits here. My wife was saying there were some real winners in that class who had some very incorrect beliefs on use of force.
    Vermont and Alaska are doing fine without shootouts over being cursed at.
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    Smarter folks up there. This is Louisiana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Smarter folks up there. This is Louisiana.
    Maybe the dumb ones die out fast in free States

    Think of it as an improvement plan!
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    Ha! Yeah ya right. lol
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    I saw Wyoming also passed a firearms freedom act. They also provided jail/fine terms for any Feds that try to interfere
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    I saw Wyoming also passed a firearms freedom act. They also provided jail/fine terms for any Feds that try to interfere

    That is outstanding. I'm all for these laws provided that felony convictions are noted in NCIC and other databases so an officer is aware of that fact when contacting a subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    That is outstanding. I'm all for these laws provided that felony convictions are noted in NCIC and other databases so an officer is aware of that fact when contacting a subject.
    All of the states that pass these acts should provide something similar. Just think, if they convict one of these guys for a felony does he loose his job with the Feds? If not when he goes back to work can the state officers arrest him for being a felon with a gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    All of the states that pass these acts should provide something similar. Just think, if they convict one of these guys for a felony does he loose his job with the Feds? If not when he goes back to work can the state officers arrest him for being a felon with a gun?
    The present case law does not allow for the charging of a Federal agent by a State for a felony committed on duty.

    Google Ruby Ridge and Horiuchi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Smarter folks up there. This is Louisiana.
    Have you seen Vermont's congressman????
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Have you seen Vermont's congressman????
    Good point!
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