Shoot to Wound

**Xiphos** · 05-26-10, 01:48 PM

City cops oppose bill that would require them to shoot to wound - NYPOST.com

City cops are livid over a legislative proposal that could handcuff the brave officers involved in life-and-death confrontations every day — requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill, The Post has learned.

**pgg** · 05-26-10, 01:54 PM

If it were to pass I hope every single officer in that God forsaken state refuses to work

**irishmick** · 05-26-10, 02:00 PM

If that passes, they might as well just start writing blank checks for the cops to hand over to the dirtbag when they shoot him in the arm.

**Motorwaycop** · 05-26-10, 02:05 PM

Even in this land of make believe armed officers are taught to shoot to STOP..death being the normal outcome.

"but sarge I WAS aiming for his leg, he moved!"

**Ducky** · 05-26-10, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Motorwaycop

Even in this land of make believe armed officers are taught to shoot to STOP..death being the normal outcome.

"but sarge I WAS aiming for his leg, he moved!"

I can see a new target at the range, it'll be a complete body outline with the femoral artery as a target zone.

Generally by the time the guns come out, the time for diplomacy has passed. If people don't want to get shot, they shouldn't ought to be stupid.

**Cidp24** · 05-26-10, 02:25 PM

I was trained to shoot to stop, not kill. I was also trained that the most effective shot placement for stopping is center mass/head. My intent would be stopping the threat, death is between the suspect and God.

I believe that trying to legislate shot placement is absolutely insane; a law written by dreamers with no practical knowledge or common sense.

**Motorwaycop** · 05-26-10, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cidp24

a law written by dreamers with no practical knowledge or common sense.

That'll account for an awful lot of legisllation

**Captain America** · 05-26-10, 03:42 PM

Another bill proposed by a lawmaker who's only concept of being in a high stress life or death situation is what they see on TV , in movies and video games. That's just stupid enough to pass.

**SPD** · 05-26-10, 03:47 PM

This is too stupid to pass even in NY. I bet it goes nowhere.

Now in CA . . . . . . .

**Wolven** · 05-26-10, 04:21 PM

That is ludicrious...really....

why dont I just ask the bad guys to stop shooting at me so we can hold hands and sign Kumbaya together too?

Some people dont have any sense...

**Twan007** · 05-26-10, 05:20 PM

3 letters...

W
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F

God Bless those poor souls in NY for all the bullshit they deal with - put your trauma plates in your back guys... looks like you're catching it from both ways for quite some time...

**Resident Smart Ass** · 05-26-10, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cidp24

I was trained to shoot to stop, not kill. I was also trained that the most effective shot placement for stopping is center mass/head. My intent would be stopping the threat, death is between the suspect and God.

I believe that trying to legislate shot placement is absolutely insane; a law written by dreamers with no practical knowledge or common sense.

This is EXACTLy how I was trained..shoot to stop the threat against myself or others from serious bodily injuries or death

**Twan007** · 05-26-10, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Resident Smart Ass

This is EXACTLy how I was trained..shoot to stop the threat against myself or others from serious bodily injuries or death

same, I can't help it if some folks don't get the message with the first bullet...

and I can't help it that the best possible placement (that means the least movable part of the body) is center-mass

**121Traffic** · 05-26-10, 07:33 PM

Not to mention that center of mass has the most margin for error on shot placement, and the least chance of over-penetration. If you're aiming for arms and parts of the leg, or God help us, the HAND holding the gun, your round ain't stopping there.

**MacLean** · 05-26-10, 09:23 PM

There are three ways to effect a stop.

Electrical, mechanical, and hydraulic.

They are asking for mechanical, the most difficult and least effective of the three choices.

Fools.

**JSO85360** · 05-26-10, 10:02 PM

We were never taught to shoot to kill in the first place. We were taught to shoot until there is no longer a threat. When you shoot, you aim center mass, as you will never shoot as well in a gunfight as you will in a structured enviroment. Now if we could all be cool and collective like Danny Crane, we could shoot the right knee, then the left, while smiling and talking and not really fearing for our life or the life of others. But this ain't TV......

**CTR man** · 05-27-10, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by SPD

This is too stupid to pass even in NY. I bet it goes nowhere.

Now in CA . . . . . . .

I wouldn't doubt that in the least. I bet it starts in Los Angeles.

**lewisipso** · 05-27-10, 01:08 AM

Sure I can do that. While they are at it why don't they legislate a flaming hoop to jump through while executing a somersault and firing before sticking the landing. It should also be legislated that the suspect is required to jump about and shoot at me while I perform said action and failure to do so will result in the issuance of a citation to said suspect for a vehicular non moving violation.
Idiots. It is amazing to me the amount of people who open their mouths only to hear themselves speak.

**MacLean** · 05-27-10, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by lewisipso

Sure I can do that. While they are at it why don't they legislate a flaming hoop to jump through while executing a somersault and firing before sticking the landing.

I am *totally* working that into the next qualification shoot.