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    Thumbs up Ohio cops can now cite "eyeball" speeders per court ruling.

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    The state's highest court ruled 5-1 against a northeast Ohio
    driver who was convicted of speeding because an officer said he looked to be driving fast.

    After a man was pulled over near Akron, he disputed the ticket he received, Seavert reported.

    The officer said the man appeared to be going 10 miles over the speed limit.
    10?



    We can do something similar for "Fail to Obey a Highway Sign" and articulate they were traveling well over the posted speed limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    10?
    my thoughts exactly....who goes that far out of their way to write tickets for 10 over? I could see using visual estimation if they're FLYING (I tagged a motorcycle once for reckless driving who had to have been doing every bit of 70ish in a 40), but for 10 over? Geez.......
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    We can already cite people based on visual observations for speed.


    I thought all of us could. It's a part of our training.
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    Can be done here too, but if it was for 10 over someone has been serving up chicken shit.

    Unless it was a school zone, I guess.
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    same here although all speed offences need corroboration of some kind.

    First is evidence of officers opinion, backed up by speedometer/laser/average speed etc

    Or the opinion of two officers.

    +10 perhaps it was foggy, no wait that's here.
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    Careless operation here. I've done it my whole career. I also thought most if not all agencies could do it.
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    We've always been able to cite based on visual estimation. It just took one very bored and overzealous guy to try to kill his credibility with the courts by citing 10 over to take it up to the State Supreme Court and uphold it.
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    It's possible the suspect was doing way more than 10 over (prompting the "eyeball" stop), but the officer chose to write the driver for only ten over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98z28 View Post
    It's possible the suspect was doing way more than 10 over (prompting the "eyeball" stop), but the officer chose to write the driver for only ten over.

    Very true. I hadn't thought about that. Could've been playing it safe, thinking he wouldn't be challenged on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98z28 View Post
    It's possible the suspect was doing way more than 10 over (prompting the "eyeball" stop), but the officer chose to write the driver for only ten over.
    This was exactly what I was thinking. I've kinda done that before, but always ended up pacing them for a bit or getting a radar check first.

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    In New York, we are already able to write speeding tickets based upon visual observation.
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    In AL you have to correctly be able to estimate speed with in 3 mph to get your radar certification. For example if a car is moving at 33 mph you have to visually estimate the speed at 32, 33, or 34 mph. If you can not do that at on a consistant basis you don't get the cert. We do this with other LEOs driving the approaching cars to know the speeds. You estimate and then verify your estimation with radar. This is kept on record for court.

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