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    Cop Making Arrest Asked To Pay At LaPorte Fair

    A police officer responding to the LaPorte County Fair to make an arrest was delayed by an attendant at the gate who insisted that he pay.
    It's an incident that officials with the fair and sheriff's office were reluctant to speak much about Monday.
    The mix-up stems from a decision to use private security during this year's fair, which ended Saturday night.
    Sheriff's deputies used to working security were told they had to pay to enter the fairgrounds this year unless called to make an arrest.
    ''I think there's some common sense that got overlooked there,'' said Gene Shurte, general manager of the LaPorte County Fair.
    LaPorte County Police Sgt. Mike Kellems was dispatched to the fairgrounds just after 5 p.m. Friday to arrest an individual wanted on an outstanding felony warrant.
    Another county police officer at the fair happened to see the man and recognized him as being wanted on the outstanding charge.
    Kellems stopped at the ticket gate and explained he was there to take a fugitive into custody, (where's the mix up?) but was informed by an attendant that he had to pay the $5 admission fee. He again stated why he was there, but another attendant, Marcia Morris, insisted he pay.
    Kellems asked for a receipt and returned to his squad car.
    In his report, Kellems said he waited for several minutes but nobody came to his police vehicle with a receipt, so he went ahead and entered the fairgrounds.

    Cop making arrest asked to pay at LaPorte fair | WSBT - News, Weather, Sports South Bend | Local News
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    I would not have paid anything. And anyone stopping me from entering would be in silver bracelets.
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    What Xiphos said

    Obstructing the Legal Process - (1) obstructs, hinders, or prevents the lawful execution of any legal process, civil or criminal, or apprehension of another on a charge or conviction of a criminal offense;
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    I kept wondering when I was going to read the sentences, "The gate attendant was then punched in the face by the officer and arrested for Interference With Official Process. The officer then found his fugitive. Then he ate a turkey leg and saw the Bearded Broad."
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    I'm with Xiphos. I had a guard at a gated community do that to me when I was trying to serve a warrant with an address inside the neighborhood. The guard said he would have to call to see if I could go in. Yeah, it struck a nerve and he was obstructing. One come to Jesus talk later the gate was opening. I told him he would be able to talk to his boss from the jail phone after I serve my warrant. In other words the gate would open with him finishing his shift in the guard shack or in the back of my car. The kicker was when I asked if his boss would bail him out.

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    He would have about 5 seconds to get out of my way before he went in the back of the car
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    It's clearly spelled out to us that we are not to impede in any way, shape, manner or form an officer of the law no matter WHAT he's doing. If he needs / wants / just has a general yen for assistance, we aid. Otherwise we stay the fuck out of his way and let him do his job. It even outlines the how and why we could get arrested if we interfere in any way. I suspect that the dumbasses at the fair didn't get the same memo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    I kept wondering when I was going to read the sentences, "The gate attendant was then punched in the face by the officer and arrested for Interference With Official Process. The officer then found his fugitive. Then he ate a turkey leg and saw the Bearded Broad."
    What if the fugitive is the Bearded Broad?

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    What y'all said...I'm still shaking my head about this one...
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    Sounds like a jumped up prick private security guard on a power trip.

    I had that problem once at a club doing a licencing check I explained exactly which two offences the doorman would be under arrest for if he didn't step back and maintain his position next to the front door.
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    Oh I would have loved to handle that problem.

    The Deputy went back to his car to wait for a receipt?

    Oh holy *&#@^$*&# no.
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    This would go over for me like a turd in a punch bowl.
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    A few years back the guard at the UPS here at the airport was refusing to let my partner in through "their gate" while he was responding onto the airfield for a possible heart (yep, emergency lights on and everything). One warning of "open the gate or go to jail" got the gate opened very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducky View Post
    It's clearly spelled out to us that we are not to impede in any way, shape, manner or form an officer of the law no matter WHAT he's doing. If he needs / wants / just has a general yen for assistance, we aid. Otherwise we stay the fuck out of his way and let him do his job. It even outlines the how and why we could get arrested if we interfere in any way. I suspect that the dumbasses at the fair didn't get the same memo.
    I used to be a security guard at several different industrial plants or factories in my area and this was highly stressed. About the only thing we were advised to do, other than help in any way, if requested, is to call the security contact or client and advise them of the incident. If the client didn't like me holding the police at bay at the front gate until he arrived, too fucking bad. I am not going to jail for some client's stupidity. Believe me, we had a few of those.

    You guys wouldn't try entering like this on a Federal U.S. Military Base, would you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CTR man View Post
    I used to be a security guard at several different industrial plants or factories in my area and this was highly stressed. About the only thing we were advised to do, other than help in any way, if requested, is to call the security contact or client and advise them of the incident. If the client didn't like me holding the police at bay at the front gate until he arrived, too fucking bad. I am not going to jail for some client's stupidity. Believe me, we had a few of those.

    You guys wouldn't try entering like this on a Federal U.S. Military Base, would you?
    Local law enforcement wouldn't have jurisdiction on a military base as it's a federal reservation , CTR. Executing a warrant would have to be co-ordinated with base law enforcement , military police or the Feds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTR man View Post
    You guys wouldn't try entering like this on a Federal U.S. Military Base, would you?
    I know that the folks around my base were very aware that entering the base was a "permission" situation.

    If someone ran from them onto the base, they would call us hoping we could deal with them using our rules.

    Crossing the red lines, even in a police car, could result in being vaporized - and they knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Local law enforcement wouldn't have jurisdiction on a military base as it's a federal reservation , CTR. Executing a warrant would have to be co-ordinated with base law enforcement , military police or the Feds.
    Quote Originally Posted by MacLean View Post
    I know that the folks around my base were very aware that entering the base was a "permission" situation.

    If someone ran from them onto the base, they would call us hoping we could deal with them using our rules.

    Crossing the red lines, even in a police car, could result in being vaporized - and they knew it.

    That's exactly what I was thinking. Normally, at least it is on the Military Base that I work on, it is a "permission" thing. If the suspect is running from a civilian LEO onto a Military Base or is on a Military Base when the civilian LEO comes looking for him, it's a LEO states their business, and the agency controlling access through the gate will go in and get the suspect and return him to the civilian LEO waiting at the gate. Although it could be possible that they would let the civilian LEO in while accompanied by base law enforcement. Probably on a case by case basis.

    A local LEO trying to enter through the gate without "permission" could get into some serious trouble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CTR man View Post

    A local LEO trying to enter through the gate without "permission" could get into some serious trouble.
    We always knew in advance if they were coming aside from using the gym or the chow hall. Our base was partially concurrent jurisdiction so they could come on if they wanted.

    Although, as an emt in town, sometimes the civilian run clinic on base was needed to stage our patients at while waiting for a medevac. While driving the ambulance code, I was held up by another security forces member, who I worked directly with AND I was pre-announced. He wanted to write me a vehicle pass and search the ambulance since it didn't have base registration (it was exempt anyway because of gov't plates) Needless to say it only happened once.
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