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    LEOSA Improvements

    The Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act Improvements Act has been passed by the senate and waits on the House of Representatives to pass companion legislation

    • Ensure availability of required training, by allowing a retired officer to meet the standard of any agency in his state or of his own former agency. (Currently, officers have to meet state standards, which not all states prescribe.) Addresses departmental liability concerns by allowing training to be conducted by state-qualified private firearm instructors.
    • Make clear that LEOSA carry rights extend to retired officers who served with one department, but retired from another.
    • Reduce the required time in service to qualify for LEOSA carry rights from 15 years to 10.
    • Strike language that conditioned retirees' carry rights on eligibility for retirement benefits.
    • Make clear that the law also applies to all federal officers and officers of the Amtrak Police Department.
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    Think the house will shelve it until after the election?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    Think the house will shelve it until after the election?
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    Congress has already recessed without passing the House version.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

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    I would have liked them to pass a version allowing carry on an airplane after taking approved courses.

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    Having passed in identical form in both the House and Senate, this bill now awaits the signature of the President before becoming law. [Last Updated: Oct 1, 2010 10:31AM
    S. 1132: Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act Improvements Act of 2010 (GovTrack.us)

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    Read The Bill: S. 1132 - GovTrack.us

    The amendments this bill contains is some wonderful news for those of us who live contiguous to and travel in the PRNJ (Peoples Republic of New Jersey) where “hollow point” ammunition is illegal.

    This section, renders their law moot:
    “the term ‘firearm’--

    ‘(1) except as provided in this subsection, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title;

    ‘(2) iincludes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act;”

    No more changing ammo for trips to/through the PRNJ. Thanks to the FOP for spearheading the changes to the LEOSA.

    Now if Obama would get off is @ss and sign it!
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    NObama signed it today
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    Quote Originally Posted by depusm12 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by depusm12 View Post
    NObama signed it today
    Not doubting what you're saying, Dep, but where did you hear that?

    I've checked Fox, CNN, ABC, and CBS news sites, and none of them have any reference to it.

    Just wanted to read some more on it, but couldn't find anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunguy View Post
    Not doubting what you're saying, Dep, but where did you hear that?

    I've checked Fox, CNN, ABC, and CBS news sites, and none of them have any reference to it.

    Just wanted to read some more on it, but couldn't find anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by depusm12 View Post
    The White House website, here's a link 2nd page Signed Legislation | The White House
    Oh, OK, thanks.

    Goin' take a look.

    Surprised none of those news outlets had anything at all on it.

    Figured the anti-gun crowd would have been screaming like maniacs already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark7 View Post
    The amendments this bill contains is some wonderful news for those of us who live contiguous to and travel in the PRNJ (Peoples Republic of New Jersey) where “hollow point” ammunition is illegal.

    This section, renders their law moot:
    “the term ‘firearm’--

    ‘(1) except as provided in this subsection, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title;

    ‘(2) iincludes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act;”

    No more changing ammo for trips to/through the PRNJ. Thanks to the FOP for spearheading the changes to the LEOSA.
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    Unfortunately DOD says this still doesn't apply to us. But FOP Grand Lodge in DC is working to fix/change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by depusm12 View Post
    Unfortunately DOD says this still doesn't apply to us. But FOP Grand Lodge in DC is working to fix/change that.
    News Item

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    I'm still gonna wait and see what happens with FOP and Congress regarding (DOD LEO's) before I start carrying under LEOSA. I can't afford to be a test case and possibly lose my job.
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    I'm sure this has been addressed elsewhere, but does this law supercede those "no firearms allowed" signs at some businesses? We were on vacation and about to go on a little train ride and the conductor said on the loudspeaker before boarding that "no firearms are allowed...even if you do have a permit, you can't bring 'em on board." That got me thinking about this.
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    No it doesn't. Just makes it legal for leo's to carry nationwide.
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    next one - following the lines of Bob - what about the federal Firearm Free Zone (school zone) - or hell, even state firearm free zone

    I know - can of worms...
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