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    Lawmakers vote to ban picketing at Tucson funerals

    PHOENIX (AP) - The Arizona Legislature has approved emergency legislation to head off picketing by a Topeka, Kan., church at the funeral service for a 9-year-old girl who was killed during Saturday's shooting in Tucson.



    Unanimous votes by the House and Senate on Tuesday send the bill to Gov. Jan Brewer for her expected signature.
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    9NEWS.com | Denver | Colorado's Online News Leader | Lawmakers vote to ban picketing at Tucson funerals

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    I agree with this 100%. There is a place and time for expression. A funeral is not one of them. Louisiana already has such a law in place and I would have no hesitation enforcing it with incarceration.
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    Does anyone have a true accounting of how they are funded? I've heard speculations, googled and found them again. In particular I'd like to know what they collect under the "Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Award Act of 1976". If this church is a nonprofit organization don't they have public records?

    I admire and respect the Patriot Guard riders and applaud the counter protests. They give the families support and, I hope, comfort, but they can't take away the knowledge these snakes were lurking. If it was a simple serpent, cutting off the head would do nicely. Among civilized men we look for different solutions - cutting off the money often works about as well as a spade.

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    Free speech is all well and good but NOBODY has a right to inflict emotional injury to another. Take the picketing elsewhere.
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    I agree with the law for the above stated reasons but will be pissed as hell if Arizona has allowed those nutjobs to interrupt military funerals in the past and only now see the need for such a law.
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    No need for a new law. Just make the punishment for kicking the ever loving $hit out of these people a fine of $1. They get their freedom of speech, and they get the understanding that there are consequences for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree with the law for the above stated reasons but will be pissed as hell if Arizona has allowed those nutjobs to interrupt military funerals in the past and only now see the need for such a law.

    I agree, were they allowed in the past in Arizona to protest at military funerals and because of this there banned? We know that is their main protest, the military.
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    Wasn't there a ruling from the Supreme Court that they were allowed to protest at military funerals? I hope their law covers the military as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadyswat View Post
    Wasn't there a ruling from the Supreme Court that they were allowed to protest at military funerals? I hope their law covers the military as well.

    Can't speak for Arizona but the Louisiana statute was enacted because of these ass clowns actions at military funerals and covers any funeral. I'm not aware of a Supreme Court ruling on the subject but the law is still on the books here and I will be only too happy to enforce it to the best of my abilities , so help me GOD.
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    Amen.
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    I'm torn on this subject. The consitutionalist in me argues that the government should have no say in a peaceable assembly. Meaning, if they aren't disorderly, shouting, etc., then it's first amendment stuff.

    The motherfu**ng, sh*t-kicking side of me say F*** those ignorant Zekes. I gotta wonder though...cemetaries are private property, or are publically-accessible yet government controlled property, are they not? If they are private, why can't the propietors tell them to F off, and that they're not to be on the grounds. If it's government-owned, the assembly can't be stopped, but the governing body can and should step in to move their protesting grounds as far away as possible from the service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    No need for a new law. Just make the punishment for kicking the ever loving $hit out of these people a fine of $1. They get their freedom of speech, and they get the understanding that there are consequences for their actions.
    Set it up like a carnival attraction. I'd float a twenty and bring a baseball bat.
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