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    Finally! WI CC law passes

    I'm sure all of you have heard me moan about the ban on concealed carry in my state, despite the state supreme court ruling that it was unconstitutional.

    Well, finally, we are returning constitutional rights to the people


    UPDATE: Governor Walker signs concealed carry into law - WKOW 27: Madison, WI Breaking News, Weather and Sports.

    DANE CO (WKOW) -- Governor Walker signed the concealed carry bill into law Friday -- making Wisconsin the 49th state to legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.
    That means it'll be legal to carry concealed firearms fourth months from now: but a permit, and training, is required.
    "I'm going to be taking the training myself and be one of the first people to sign up for a permit," Walker said at the signing ceremony in Rothschild.
    Wisconsin's version of concealed carry will allow it to happen in most public buildings; it will still be banned at schools and courthouses.
    Concealed carry bills had been close to becoming law in the past, but were vetoed by former Governor Doyle, who maintained a proliferation of gun carrying citizens would erode public safety.
    But Walker, with support from both democratic and republican lawmakers, maintained concealed carry was an extension of the constitutional right to bear arms, and had sparked no increase in gun violence in the other states where it has been legal.
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    'bout damn time!!
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    How long before the libtards piss themselves?
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    Good on'em. This leaves only the people's republic of Illinois that is practically commie now, right?

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Good on'em. This leaves only the people's republic of Illinois that is practically commie now, right?

    As far as I know, you are correct.
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    There are still states (People's Republic of Kalifornia) that although they allow CCW, it's not "shall issue" and you can't get one unless you are politically connected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    There are still states (People's Republic of Kalifornia) that although they allow CCW, it's not "shall issue" and you can't get one unless you are politically connected.
    Most rural areas in CA will issue a CCW with out a problem. It's the city areas that you can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    How long before the libtards piss themselves?
    Some areas of CA might just be a sea of urine. LA and SF come to mind. They can fall off into the ocean and I wouldn't bat an eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    There are still states (People's Republic of Kalifornia) that although they allow CCW, it's not "shall issue" and you can't get one unless you are politically connected.
    This is much the case in areas such as Los Angeles and San Francisco where the libtards dominate.

    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    Most rural areas in CA will issue a CCW with out a problem. It's the city areas that you can't.
    Unfortunately, my county is one of those that has rural and urban. I am one block within the city limits. Maybe I need to move out to the country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Good on'em. This leaves only the people's republic of Illinois that is practically commie now, right?
    It must be Chicago that is dragging them down. Probably the libtards at it again.


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    Illinois is the last holdout.

    Now we need a reciprocity law.
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    Always happy to hear good news.

    What's the training requirement? Keep us updated.

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    Govier still expressed concern the law's training requirements were minimal, but Walker said sheriffs and law enforcement officers he consulted with felt the training component was sufficient.
    Some is better than none.

    Grant County sheriff Keith Govier reacted to the bill's signing with praise for compromises to the bill's earlier versions. In those versions, no training or permitting was required.
    It's always the "no training" required that bothers me. Just strap on a pistola, an uncle mikes strap snap holster cross draw style and cover it with a T shirt and yee haww.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Some is better than none.



    It's always the "no training" required that bothers me. Just strap on a pistola, an uncle mikes strap snap holster cross draw style and cover it with a T shirt and yee haww.
    There are several states that do not require a permit to carry concealed. Alaska is one, VT I believe doesn't either and I think NH is considering removing the requirement to get a permit (not training there either, just apply and if you have no criminal history it is granted).


    Personally, I can see the argument for training, but the constitution does protect the right to keep and bear arms, and I feel that covers open or concealed. We don't currently require any training to exercise any other rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    Always happy to hear good news.

    What's the training requirement? Keep us updated.
    So far it only says firearm safety course. It sounds like any type of course, including online courses, would suffice as long as they teach firearm safety. I'm wondering if my military training would count, but I do have hunters safety and so far it is being said that that will suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 213th View Post
    So far it only says firearm safety course. It sounds like any type of course, including online courses, would suffice as long as they teach firearm safety. I'm wondering if my military training would count, but I do have hunters safety and so far it is being said that that will suffice.

    In MN any law enforcement firearms training counts towards your firearms training when getting your CCW. So I would hope your military firearms training would be applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Some is better than none.



    It's always the "no training" required that bothers me. Just strap on a pistola, an uncle mikes strap snap holster cross draw style and cover it with a T shirt and yee haww.
    We have no requirements. No permit, no training requirement. Just don't break the law or do anything stupid. Rarely do we have problems.

    We do have a permit and process so Alaskans can have reciprocity with other states but it isn't required here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 213th View Post
    There are several states that do not require a permit to carry concealed. Alaska is one, VT I believe doesn't either and I think NH is considering removing the requirement to get a permit (not training there either, just apply and if you have no criminal history it is granted).


    Personally, I can see the argument for training, but the constitution does protect the right to keep and bear arms, and I feel that covers open or concealed. We don't currently require any training to exercise any other rights.
    True but I have personally observed the reality of firearms and no training. Oh well, it is what it is. At least Wisconsin now has the option of at least a CC permit. That beats what they did have.
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