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07-01-12, 11:07 PM #1
Online training for Border Patrol urges 'run away and hide' when confronted with an active shooter.Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."
It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.
“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."
The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.
Read more: Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News
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07-02-12, 02:22 PM #2
wow. throw things at them if cornered. wow.
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07-02-12, 03:14 PM #3RookieVerified LEO
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The FEMA IS courses are just generalized training courses designed for people with emergency management responsibilities AS well as the general public. That course SPECIFICALLY states "This course is not designed for law-enforcement officers, but for non law enforcement employees."
Seriously sometimes we just try and find stuff the gripe about.
07-02-12, 03:29 PM #4
What the hell business does FEMA have "teaching" law enforcement officers tactics in the realm of deadly force situations?Do not war for peace. If you must war, war for justice. For without justice there is no peace. -me
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07-02-12, 04:11 PM #5
Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:
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07-02-12, 05:13 PM #6
Sounds like the Dept of Homeland Security wants Border Patrol agents to adopt the Justice Dept. policy per the Obama Administration on handling dire situations. Just run from it and drop chaff.SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
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07-02-12, 07:50 PM #7Officer First Class
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Just ignore them, RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!
We should build a large wooden rabbit. Now that they've taken it across the border we will jump out and take them completely by surprise!
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07-03-12, 05:50 PM #9
We were talking with border patrol agents last night. They were bitching about this because they have been told that they are required to follow this now'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'
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07-03-12, 07:46 PM #10
Wonder what liability that leaves if, heaven forbid, an active shooter happens civilians are hurt/killed, and it is proven that armed federal officers "ran away" rather than trying to stop the threat?
Also, are they taught any kind of agressive response to active shooters in basic or any advanced class? That would truly be confusing.*************************"It wouldn't take much for me to up and run...to another life somewhere in the sun."*************************"There's something inherently wrong with having to put on a bullet-proof vest and a gun to go to work."-(An old friend)
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