Murder in Iraq?

**keith720** · 05-26-06, 04:02 PM

It seems as though our military establishment is trying to go forward to investigate claims that Marines "murdered" a number of civilians during a recent firefight in Iraq. Of course the media is reporting that civilians in the area are reporting that Marines killed, "in cold blood" about 20 -30 "civilians." These are the same civilians that behead journalists, set roadside bombs and kill more of their own people on a daily basis than our troops do! I wish we had one leader or commander that had the balls to tell the people of Iraq, that "force will be met with force, and that if you try to kill us, we WILL kill you!" If we took the gloves off, and quit worrying about offending our enemies, this whole thing could be over and done with. I'm generally a supporter of the President, but he seems to have become as gutless as the rest of the political fatcats running this fiasco.

**RdrB67** · 05-27-06, 02:02 AM

Amen!

**Piggybank Cop** · 05-27-06, 08:27 AM

Kind of like what cops go through here.

**Retdetsgt** · 05-27-06, 09:25 AM

Might want to wait and see on this one. Being an old Vietnam vet, I can tell you that shit happens. People poopoo'd Mei Lai at first too and that was nothing but a massacre. I used to work with Lt. Calley's radioman. He testified at the court martial.

**keith720** · 05-27-06, 06:37 PM

I remember Mei Lai and the difference here is that in Vietnam, the witnesses were troops that were there, or involved. I haven't seen anything, yet, from the Marines that were on the scene in Iraq. If all we are going to depend on is the testimony of the Iraqis, we are in pretty rough shape.

**Retdetsgt** · 05-27-06, 11:39 PM

Yeah, but blind defense can be as bad as blind condemnation. From first reports, the incident sounds pretty familiar. A Marine get killed and they take it out on the nearest village. That was the same scenario at Mei Lai. I'm not saying the Marines are guilty either, but until some facts come out I don't want to say it didn't happen. Battle makes men do strange things.

And just because they're Iraqi's doesn't mean they're lying either. I suspect though they have more evidence than that.