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    Question Authorities continue to investigate tainted heroin

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    Authorities continue to investigate tainted heroin Police hope West Side arrest yields answers
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    June 16, 2006 (Last Updated: 5:11 PM) - Chicago Police say they have made a key arrest in their investigation into a potent batch of drugs on the streets of Chicago. Heroin combined with a powerful prescription drug has killed more than 60 people in Cook County in the last few months.

    Chicago police say not only was Thursday arrest key, they are investigating about a dozen other high-level drug dealers and hopes to make more arrests in their ongoing effort to get this tainted drug off the street.
    "This will be a long haul for us. Because the thing that's driving this drug, obviously, it's a profit margin. Huge profit margin associated with this narcotic," said Deputy Supt. Charles Williams, Chicago Police Dept.

    Chicago police Friday acknowledged that they have an ongoing fight to get deadly batches of heroin off the streets. It is laced with the powerful prescription drug fentanyl and has killed more than 60 people in Cook County over a period of several months and hundreds of people nationwide.

    But with Thursday's arrest of a West Side man accused of dealing the drug near Cicero and Huron, police, with residents, are hopeful that they can learn more about the origin of the tainted drug.

    "It's coming from the top. So if it's coming from the top, and they -- young dealers -- killing people, what are we going to do about that? It's best we start from the top and work our way down to the bottom," said Charles Streeter, resident.

    Before Thursday;s arrest, Chicago police had already arrested more than 100 drug dealers to find out more information about suppliers. A lab in Mexico, where the drug might have been made, was taken down in late May by authorities there.

    A two-day conference wrapped up Thursday where police, federal drug agents, and public health officials discussed the fentanyl crisis which is becoming larger than anticipated.

    "We need to prosecute a lot of these people federally, because this pipeline extends across the borders. A dope dealer who gives a victim deadly drugs is no different than an offender who fatally shoots a victim with a weapon," said Supt. Phil Cline, Chicago Police Dept.

    Chicago police say they are working with federal agents in an effort to make selling fentanyl laced heroin a crime separate from other drug offenses.

    Let me get some of your views and then I will share mine.
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    selling deadly drugs shouldnt be treated lightly, even if the poisoned drug was illegal in the first place. Dying is dying, and using drugs, however dumb it may be, should not carry a death sentence. Accidents do happen, but way too many people are dying from this stuff.
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    Fuck em, met thousands of junkies in my short career. 1 or 2 got off their asses, took the support and help offered and made it through.

    9999/8 spat in the face of those that tried and then stole their wallets/tvs/insert item here. Usually by holding a blood syringe to their necks or just kicking the crap out of them and that was after telling the judge they were changed people (in between laughing in his and my face)

    Drugs arent a disease its an addiction that was voluntary so the junkies are responsible for their own sad pathetic lives. Why should decent people that worked hard for a decent life suffer?

    Bottom line? Every junkie that dies is 50+ crimes that dont happen and 50+ victims saved.

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    I am with Garda. Same thing for Gang shootings. The only thing that concerns me there is that innocents may be caught by a stray or a bad shot. Beyond that, go ahead and do it so I don't have to worry about ya later.
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    Hypes are dealers waiting for the chance to cash in. They will die anyway. Give them what they want and they will leave the rest of us alone.

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    not long after the chicago police warned the public on what street corner the deadly herion was being passed out and that it was killing people. the next day more than 60 shitbags showed up to get there free sample but i say fuck 'em less folks scamming the goverment
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    This may be a finalist for the Ultimate Darwin award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garda
    Bottom line? Every junkie that dies is 50+ crimes that dont happen and 50+ victims saved.
    I wouldnt generalize... I know some junkies around here that are actually decent people... sure, they're a little wierd, but they're not all victimizing predators...

    ...I must agree with Conalabu about the gang shootings though, but thats an entirely different scenario... Theres a big difference between a junkie shooting up, and a thug shooting up half a city block... perhaps if they knew how to aim well, gang shootings wouldnt be so bad... at least all the dead people knew what they were getting into... I guess you can say the same about drugs, sure they know its risky... but knowingly making death a sure thing for another person is... well, murder... and however useful it may appear to be, it is still wrong. Defensive killings and executions are one thing, but selling death for a profit? come on...
    The one exception would be the morons that bought it even when they knew what it was... I really cant say anything for anyone dumb enough to do that...
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    Well, I look at it this way, we lost 60 some odd burglars, robbers, guys standing at the exit of the expressway to wash your windows and wait for the oppurtuned time to car jack you. These people (and I use that term lightly) are the dregs of society, they get the welfare, they get the stamps, they collect the SSI, they pay little to no taxes. They are dirt balls. I have yet to met a hype I like and I have met quite a few in my day, the hypes in Michigan must be different. The ones I've met are scum. They would stab you in the back no sooner if you let them.
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    damn.. sounds like quite a problem over there... We have our f***ups here, but the hazardous ones usually seem to prefer other choice drugs
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    The Junkies I refer to mostly use Heroin, thats the drug of choice in Ireland. Cocaine was seen as a rich kid drug but its getting cheaper and circulating more than it used to. I dont class dopers as junkies, just dopers.

    And I only know a few coke heads that didnt go into the sewer and crime, 1 was my brother and they all kicked the stuff before being dragged down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Patten
    I wouldnt generalize... I know some junkies around here that are actually decent people... sure, they're a little wierd, but they're not all victimizing predators...
    Decent people?!! What kind of "junkies" are you talking about? I know some people hooked on, say, pain meds that are otherwise fairly decent, but heroin?!!

    Maybe you need to elaborate on how you define "junkie," I guess. Where I live, the "junkies" include the more hard-core users and they are useless wastes of human flesh; walking petrie-dishes that spread filth, disease and misery to everyone they touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Patten
    damn.. sounds like quite a problem over there... We have our f***ups here, but the hazardous ones usually seem to prefer other choice drugs
    Are you saying you would invite some of these junkies into your home? I mean they are actually decent people. "Hey Harry the Heroin Head come on over you are actually decent, I am having dinner tonite. Please leave the silverware, the china, my plasma TV, my playstation, try not to rape my wife or daughter." Are you kidding me? There is no such thing as a decent hype.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro56
    Are you saying you would invite some of these junkies into your home? I mean they are actually decent people. "Hey Harry the Heroin Head come on over you are actually decent, I am having dinner tonite. Please leave the silverware, the china, my plasma TV, my playstation, try not to rape my wife or daughter." Are you kidding me? There is no such thing as a decent hype.'

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    I know I am just dying to meet some of these people.
    Apparently I used the term 'junkie' far too loosely. The 'users' I referred to as decent people are not the evil wastes of life you are describing, but rather they are habitual users that use too much for their own good. Thats what I frequently call a junkie. A habitual robber/rapist is what I simply call an asshole... but thats just my opinion.

    ...And yes, I have invited a few of these 'decent people' heroin addicts into my home before, and I even let a couple of them stay the night for a few days when they were temporarily homeless, and will happily do so again, as they were very respectful of myself and my property at all times, which is more than I can say for a few of the 'clean-and-sober' people who have been in my home. Perhaps these users really are of a highly unusual variety, but we really cant expect everyone to place themselves in a typical, predictable category, can we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Patten
    Apparently I used the term 'junkie' far too loosely. The 'users' I referred to as decent people are not the evil wastes of life you are describing, but rather they are habitual users that use too much for their own good. Thats what I frequently call a junkie. A habitual robber/rapist is what I simply call an asshole... but thats just my opinion.

    ...And yes, I have invited a few of these 'decent people' heroin addicts into my home before, and I even let a couple of them stay the night for a few days when they were temporarily homeless, and will happily do so again, as they were very respectful of myself and my property at all times, which is more than I can say for a few of the 'clean-and-sober' people who have been in my home. Perhaps these users really are of a highly unusual variety, but we really cant expect everyone to place themselves in a typical, predictable category, can we?
    well i hope u had everything in ure home bolted down. "decent people" are u fuckin joking me? who are u mother theresa? hypes and addicts are no different both will lie, steal and sell their newborn for a hit. hell they can come over to my house and fuck my sister
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Patten
    Apparently I used the term 'junkie' far too loosely. The 'users' I referred to as decent people are not the evil wastes of life you are describing, but rather they are habitual users that use too much for their own good. Thats what I frequently call a junkie. A habitual robber/rapist is what I simply call an asshole... but thats just my opinion.

    ...And yes, I have invited a few of these 'decent people' heroin addicts into my home before, and I even let a couple of them stay the night for a few days when they were temporarily homeless, and will happily do so again, as they were very respectful of myself and my property at all times, which is more than I can say for a few of the 'clean-and-sober' people who have been in my home. Perhaps these users really are of a highly unusual variety, but we really cant expect everyone to place themselves in a typical, predictable category, can we?

    One of these days the term, "We told you so" is going to come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0
    One of these days the term, "We told you so" is going to come up.
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