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    Judge's Sentencing Comments to Shoe Bomber

    > > Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his
    shoe
    > > and tried to light it?
    > >
    > > Did you know that his trial is over?
    > >
    > > Did you know he was sentenced?
    > >
    > > Did you see/hear any of the judge's remarks on TV or radio?
    > >
    > > Didn't think so.
    > >
    > > Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
    > >
    > >
    > > ______________________________ __
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.
    > >
    > >
    > > Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had
    > > anything to say.
    > >
    > > His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the
    > > record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to
    > > Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I
    > > will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war
    > > with your country."
    > >
    > > Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:
    > >
    > > January 30, 2003 , United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:
    > >
    > > "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court
    imposes
    > > upon you.
    > >
    > > On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison
    in
    > > the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3,
    4

    > > and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count,
    > > the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other.
    > >
    > > That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the
    > > mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The
    > > Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000
    > > for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the
    > > government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders
    > > restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784
    to

    > > American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800 special
    assessment.
    > >
    > > The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply
    > > because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life
    > > sentences so I need go no further. This is the sentence that is
    > > provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is
    > > a righteous sentence.
    > >
    > > Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of
    your
    > > terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been
    > > through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here and I
    > > say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court,
    we

    > > deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as
    individuals.
    > >
    > >
    > > As human beings, we reach out for justice.
    > >
    > > You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not
    a
    > > soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that
    reference,

    > > to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it
    is

    > > the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it,
    > > or if you think you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a
    > > terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet
    > > with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt
    > > them down one by one and bring them to justice.
    > >
    > > So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big
    fellow.
    > > But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors.
    > >
    > > You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of
    > > multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper
    > > Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and
    > > into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV
    crews

    > > were, and he
    > > said: "You're no big deal."
    > >
    > > You are no big deal.
    > >
    > > What your able counsel and what the equally able United States
    > > attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know
    > > how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.
    > > What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?
    > >
    > > I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask
    you
    > > to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable
    hate

    > > led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of
    doing.

    > > And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I
    > > search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I
    know.
    > >
    > > It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most
    precious.
    > >
    > > You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual
    > > freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to
    > > believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this
    > > society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere
    from sea to shining sea.
    > > It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here
    > > in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see,
    > > that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely.
    > > It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so
    > > vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in
    > > their representation of you before other judges.
    > >
    > > We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the

    > > way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.
    > > Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any
    burden;

    > > pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this
    courtroom.

    > > Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I
    say here.
    > >
    > > Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however,
    will
    > > long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across
    > > America, the American people will gather to see that justice,
    > > individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact
    > > being done. The very President of the United States through his
    > > officers come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which
    specific

    > > matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and
    > > judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine
    our

    > > sense of justice
    > >
    > > See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of

    > > America . That flag will fly there long after this is all
    forgotten.
    > > That flag stands for freedom And it always will.
    > >
    > > Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.
    > >
    > > So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV
    sets?
    > >
    > > We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another
    subject.
    > > Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine
    > > judge had to say.
    > >
    > > Powerful words that strike home.
    > >
    > > God bless America .
    > >

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    Bravo! And thanks for posting this!

    We have become too accustomed to sound bites, and no longer view oration as an art. It's a shame, but few things stir the heart and soul as much as an inspiring speech.

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    justice was served
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    i like that judge. i will post this at work.


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    I believe Judge Young would be an excellent addition to the US Supreme Court.

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    Pass this email around as much as possible. My stepdad sent it to me and as the email stated, you haven't heard about this story from the media.

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
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    Snopes confirms it as legitimate. Yay Judge Young!
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    Good beans. About time someone got on the horse and said something worth reading about.
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    That was just inspiring. Too many negative stories about judges lately, this was absolutely refreshing. Thanks!

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    Three consecutive life sentences plus 80 consecutive years will easily delay this idiot's ability to meet "Allah" for awhile!!

    Yeah, way to go Judge Young!!
    You are a sniper when all other methods to save a life are failing...
    You are a counter-sniper when someone else thinks they are as good as you with a rifle.

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    Yes I liked what the judge said........just wish people would learn to not forward or post without taking out all the >>'s It is easy to do....and not really pointed at you five-o......just one of my pet peeves, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT Sniper View Post
    Three consecutive life sentences plus 80 consecutive years will easily delay this idiot's ability to meet "Allah" for awhile!!

    Yeah, way to go Judge Young!!
    Absolutely!!!! One less terrorist!!!! Let's hope that all judges learn from Judge Young and they are able to lock more of these sociopaths up for life!!!!!

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    I'd rather he met Allah immediately, but that's just me. Still, top Judge.
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    One down!!!

    Big it up for the Judge!!!

    Ps -can we borrow him for our terrorist trials?

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    Now there is a man after my own heart!! I stand and applaud Judge Young and wish there were more like him in this country. I bet he was a hell of a lawyer before....and thats hard to fathom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan 42 View Post
    I'd rather he met Allah immediately, but that's just me. Still, top Judge.
    I would agree Trojan... Except that after they are caught, if you execute them, they become even greater martyrs than if they had died in a violent confrontation while attempting to carry out their mission. The fact that they did not successfully complete their mission in that instance minimizes the martyrdom aspect of their cause.

    Hence it is best to kill them BEFORE they carry out the attack, but if you cannot send them to Allah immediately (during the incident), it is best to disgrace them further by prolonging their meeting with Allah by incarceration.

    I personally think it would be even better to use some of their tactics and cause them to renounce their "religion" and accept, say... Christianity or Judaism and become pacifist practitioners of either, or of a similar religious persuasion. I don't care how radical or fundamental a person is, every human has a breaking point and given the proper coercion, errrr I mean persuasion, even these people can be "re-educated". Be it fortunate or unfortunate, this will never happen while a terrorist is in U.S. custody, as it goes against our standard of freedom as well as our legal standards.

    Thus we are limited to the options in the first two paragraphs.

    Waiting for the flame on paragraph 3!
    You are a sniper when all other methods to save a life are failing...
    You are a counter-sniper when someone else thinks they are as good as you with a rifle.

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