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    Angry Family 'shock' at shooting probe

    The family of a man shot dead by police have reacted with "unbelievable shock and astonishment" to news that officers will not face criminal charges.
    Charity worker Simon Murden, 26, from Beverley, was shot after driving the wrong way down the A63 and walking towards armed police with a sword.

    After an 18-month investigation the Crown Prosecution Service said no charges would be brought.

    But Mr Murden's family said they had expected "a very different outcome".

    'Terrible and untimely'

    In a statement the family said: "It is with unbelievable shock and astonishment that our family and friends have responded to the news that no criminal charges will be brought against the police for the terrible and untimely death of Simon.

    "The thorough and vigorous investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission and discussions with the Crown Prosecution Service and the knowledge that we have from this, had indicated a very different outcome."

    He did not deserve such a shocking death at the hands of the police

    Family of Simon Murden

    The family described Mr Murden as gentle, sensitive, humorous, "calm in all circumstances", kind and genuine.

    They said: "We know that a coroner's court is a court of law, but it is not the appropriate place for a full and transparent account of the events surrounding the terrible death of Simon to be judged.

    "We and our friends are determined to pursue Simon's case to ensure justice for him. He did not deserve such a shocking death at the hands of the police."

    'Volatile situation'

    Humberside Police's Chief Constable Tim Hollis said Mr Muden's death was "tragic in so many ways".

    He said: "It was tragic for the Murden family, who will still be struggling to come to terms with the death of a much-loved son; and my thoughts and sympathies go out to all the family at this time."

    All my armed officers are volunteers and they carry a heavy burden in protecting the public

    Chief Constable Tim Hollis

    Mr Hollis said the incident was the first time in the history of the force that armed officers had shot and killed anyone and it was a "very sad event".

    He said his thoughts were also with the officers involved and their families.

    "The last 18 months have been very difficult for them too. They were confronted by a volatile situation. They only had moments in which to make decisions which would have been scrutinised and analysed at length.

    "All my armed officers are volunteers and they carry a heavy burden in protecting the public, protecting unarmed officers and protecting themselves in difficult and demanding circumstances.

    "I have a high regard for their commitment and their professionalism."

    Earlier crash

    Mr Murden worked for his father's fair trade charity, and was driving one of its vans down the A63 in the wrong direction when officers were called to the scene.

    He began to approach them carrying "sword-type weapons" and was fatally wounded after baton rounds failed to stop him, police have said.

    The van had been involved in a crash with at least one other car before police arrived.

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    This sort of thing makes me so angry, Someone drives the wrong way down a one way road, crashes, threatens police with a sword, they try to restrain him with less than lethal force he continues and they have to shoot him to prevent a murder the family make out he is an angel and the police enjoy hurting and killing people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Dave View Post
    This sort of thing makes me so angry, Someone drives the wrong way down a one way road, crashes, threatens police with a sword, they try to restrain him with less than lethal force he continues and they have to shoot him to prevent a murder the family make out he is an angel and the police enjoy hurting and killing people .
    I would have shot his ass, too.

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    Dave, that one probably wouldn't have even made the front page in most US cities. Be thankful that this is such an odd happenstance that it brought the attention it did. Be even more thankful for the courts backing the police on this one. We don't always get that here.
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    Considering the stupidity of the son, why be surprised that his parents are morons as well.

    Was the guy a tweeker?
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    Stupid must be genetic, as you CAN'T pull a sword for anything other than display and not cause a reaction. And even when it's for display, you have to do it slowly and tell them you're doing it. BTDT.
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    I think I can understand why parents would be upset, and would cling to the hopes that their child wasn't an a-hole that brought about his/her own death.

    I can "get" that.

    But what really annoyes me to know end is the media publishing this kind of crap.

    I believe 100%, that modern day media, that no longer just presents "the facts" should have a civilian oversight committee to review what it publishes.. Hell, if "we" can't be trusted to police ourselves, how the heck can the media be trusted?

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    "Media" cares nothing for you or me.......all "media" cares about is selling papers or on air ads. If they can rouse their lemming like fans they'll ruin you for the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conalabu View Post
    Dave, that one probably wouldn't have even made the front page in most US cities. Be thankful that this is such an odd happenstance that it brought the attention it did. Be even more thankful for the courts backing the police on this one. We don't always get that here.
    +20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Dave View Post






    and the police enjoy hurting and killing people .
    Well the 'hurting' half of that is true.
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    People need the realize that when you approach police with a deadly weapon in your hands, you're going to end up on the ground whether it's by a taser, bullet, etc. Deadly force is something no officer wants to use, but in times like that it's kill or be killed.
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    Sounds like the whole family are Darwin Award canidates.

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    Guess he thought he would have had the same effect with his sword that Wonder Woman had with her bracers...

    Kept at a distance a man with a sword (or other bladed or blunt object) can be dealt with. Up close, one swipe and its all she wrote. I would have reacted the same way as those officers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Dave View Post
    This sort of thing makes me so angry, Someone drives the wrong way down a one way road, crashes, threatens police with a sword, they try to restrain him with less than lethal force he continues and they have to shoot him to prevent a murder the family make out he is an angel and the police enjoy hurting and killing people .
    The family is obviously delusional and the media clearly has propagated this fantasy world they live in.

    The Courts did the right thing, as well as the officers. Kill or be killed, they went home to their families, as it should be. I am glad to here that it turned out ok for them in the courts. Justice prevailed!!!!

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    "The thorough and vigorous investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission and discussions with the Crown Prosecution Service and the knowledge that we have from this, had indicated a very different outcome."


    Its clear the IPCC and CPS have been giving the family false information.
    What did they seriously expect.
    The british public and press need to get over the tv image of police shooting a suspect to incapacitate.
    He couldn't be controlled by baton rounds ( At least they tried non lethal )
    Their was only one option left or perhaps they'd like us tosmile sweetly and let him have the first swing just to see if he really means it.
    Whilst losing a close family member is horrible I can only say to them, and the spineless members of the IPCC and CPS who told them the cops would be charged ( That appears to be the implication )
    GET A LIFE AND WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.
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