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    Judge grants man's stay of execution because he is "too fat" to die

    An Ohio judge has delayed the execution of a former cult leader and convicted murderer who claims that obesity and diabetes will put him at a greater risk for suffering during lethal injection.

    On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Gregory Frost granted Lundgren's request for intervention based on his arguments that the current lethal injection protocols are insufficient to ensure that he will not suffer "excruciating and conscious pain."

    Moreover, Lundgren's lawyer claims that he suffers from medical conditions that would interfere with the effectiveness of the lethal cocktail and exacerbate his suffering.

    "The general expert opinion is that the protocols currently in use in Ohio carry a high probability that the condemned prisoner will suffer extreme and conscious pain," appellate attorney James Jenkins told CourtTVnews.com. "Mr. Lundgren is diabetic and hypertensive and I think those conditions will increase the probability of his suffering."

    The arguments are based on the constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishment for those in the criminal justice system.

    The stay comes less than two weeks after the Ohio Parole Board recommended against clemency for Lundgren, who told the board that God had commanded him to carry out the killings.

    The Avery family had moved from Missouri to Ohio in 1987 to join Lundgren's remote RLDS congregation, a group that has its roots in Mormonism. By 1988, the RLDS had excommunicated Lundgren, but he continued his teachings out of a farmhouse that he shared with select members of his flock.

    According to several former followers who testified in Lundgren's murder and kidnapping trial, the man they referred to as "Dad" said the murders were part of a plan to recapture their temple, bring forth the return of Jesus and reestablish Zion.

    Less than a week before the murders, Lundgren's followers dug a pit in the farmhouse to prepare for the murders, or what Lundgren referred to as a "pruning of the vineyard."

    On April 17, Lundgren invited the Avery family to the farmhouse for dinner. After they ate, each member of the family was bound and gagged and placed in the pit, where Lundgren shot them to death.

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    Humm too fat he says? I say put him in that jail in Arizona, let him get fed what they eat, wear his pink boxers and live in tents. Should be ready for evaluation in say 4 months or so.

    No extra duress there, he would have dropped at least 20-30 pounds and prob. gotten into better shape.
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    I say ok no Lethal Injection.....so the alternative is a gun shot to the head. There will be no pain at all involved with it. Why doesn't the Judge give him alternatives? Ok this method won't work for you? Here is a sheet of paper with some other methods on it.....pick one. If you don't pick one the court will pick one for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg3533 View Post
    I say ok no Lethal Injection.....so the alternative is a gun shot to the head. There will be no pain at all involved with it. Why doesn't the Judge give him alternatives? Ok this method won't work for you? Here is a sheet of paper with some other methods on it.....pick one. If you don't pick one the court will pick one for you.
    +1 BigDawg, I was thinking a .45 slug would cure a lot of his ills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg3533 View Post
    I say ok no Lethal Injection.....so the alternative is a gun shot to the head. There will be no pain at all involved with it. Why doesn't the Judge give him alternatives? Ok this method won't work for you? Here is a sheet of paper with some other methods on it.....pick one. If you don't pick one the court will pick one for you.
    I do like your way of thinking on this one BigDawg!!
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    Last edited by conalabu; 11-30-06 at 01:43 PM.
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    That's like the dumbass judge who ruled in favor of not putting a man who sexually assaulted a child in prison because he was too short. He got probation


    UNREAL

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    LMAO... im sorry but i found this disturbingly funny and have so many NPC jokes..

    oh dear.. .i have to get out of this thread
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    What the hell are these people thinking? This is freaking ridiculous!
    His attorney said,

    Mr. Lundgren is diabetic and hypertensive and I think those conditions will increase the probability of his suffering
    Well hell, if his attorney THINKS so, then I guess it will happen. Attorneys have never been known to lie.Then you get,

    The arguments are based on the constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishment
    Well hell, is this not cruel and unusual?

    On April 17, Lundgren invited the Avery family to the farmhouse for dinner. After they ate, each member of the family was bound and gagged and placed in the pit, where Lundgren shot them to death
    I say let the fat bastard fry! Man, I hate dumbasses.
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