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    Kingman Police officer charged W/Felony

    I wanted to post this news story to see what some opinions of the case and news stories are.
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    Ex-officer allegedly fired gun 31 times at unarmed suspect
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    HUTCHINSON, Kan. - A former Kingman police officer who allegedly fired his police weapon 31 times while chasing unarmed suspects has been charged with three crimes.

    James Williams, 33, was charged Tuesday with one count of criminal discharge of a firearm and two counts of attempted criminal discharge of a firearm.

    Kingman County Attorney Bradford Williams said the officer "maliciously and without authority" fired his Glock 9-mm handgun at an occupied vehicle while chasing it in two counties Sept. 10.

    "It's not an easy thing to do," Bradford Williams said of charging the officer. "But there's a time for them to use their weapon, and this wasn't the time."

    The chase began when James Williams tried to stop Clete Weisz, 28, after receiving a report that Weisz was driving erratically in the Kingman city park.

    Police said the chase reached speeds of up to 100 mph and went from Kingman to just south of Arlington in Reno County.

    Weisz eventually stopped his car several miles north of Kingman and Williams got out of his patrol car. Weisz then got back into his vehicle and drove off, the county attorney said.

    Williams at first chased Weisz on foot and fired the first shot through the driver's-side window, hitting Weisz in the knee, the county attorney said. During the chase, Williams shot his weapon 30 more times, hitting Weisz's vehicle three times, prosecutors said.

    On the emergency dispatch recording, obtained by The Hutchinson News on Tuesday, Kingman County dispatchers report to Reno County 911 officials that a pursuit was headed toward Arlington and that shots have been fired.

    Later, a passenger in Weisz's car, Darrin Moran, called Reno County 911 and asked for help.

    "Who's shooting?" the dispatcher asked.

    "Nobody but the police officer," Moran answered. "I can't get him (Weisz) to stop, I tried. ... I just want to get home."

    Moran told dispatchers several times that no one in the vehicle had a gun and no one had shot at the officer.

    Weisz was later charged with drunken driving and fleeing to elude an officer. Moran wasn't charged.

    Bradford Williams said the Kansas Bureau of Investigation indicated that James Williams didn't have a legitimate reason to fire his weapon.

    "In this case, he fired at an occupied vehicle," the county attorney said. "He didn't have any reason to shoot just because they didn't pull over for a traffic stop."

    Kingman Police Chief John Braden placed James Williams on paid administrative leave after the shooting. Braden said Williams had already planned to leave the department to work for the Pratt Police Department.

    Pratt Police Chief Steve Holmes said his department had made a conditional offer to Williams but that offer was withdrawn after the chase.

    Williams is scheduled to be in court on Nov. 2.
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    Another TV link

    http://www.kake.com/

    Click on video titled Police Chase Charges

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    if thats all true...FUCK! Good thing he didnt have a AR!

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    Well this is obviously one side of the story. We havn't heard Williams' side yet so who knows what he was thinking.

    Sounds like we have a bit of a John Wayne on our hands here...haha.

    Surely a wild story. Hopefully the officer's story will surface.
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    Maybe I am just too close to this case but it really makes me pissed. The officer got a phone call from the news 10 min after they served him notice to appear in court because the prosecutor that filed the charges has a personal beef with the officer and sent out a press release before the officer was even served.
    And just to update they have continued the first appearance and the officer has retained qualified counsel.
    To put the charges in perspective the only thing he is being charged with in this county is the one shot he fired while the victim/scroatbag was trying to hit the officer with his vehicle.
    All the other shots were fired in another county that declined prosecution.

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    The other thing you have to wonder is what kind of deal are they going to make with the Sh*tbag that started the whole thing to testify against the officer.

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    Im going to hold my judgement till we have more info on this. It sounds like the number of rounds was excessive, but then again I wasn't there and don't know what happened.
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    Well, isn't this a perfect case of Tennessee v. Garner? The chase had gone on for a while with extreme speeds. This leads me to believe that by fleeing, there was a chance of further chance of injury or death, and the officer could be justified in shooting.
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    The problem I have is that he is being judged in one county for actions in another. 30 of the 31 shots fired were in another county other than the one he was charged.

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    I would also like to hear from the officer but that probably won't happen until the court case. I can't see much reason to fire 31 shots as a moving vehicle that is fleeing from you. Why not just terminate the pursuit? If the screwball kills someone after that, you have done what you can do. How much more dangerous would it have been to have one of those 31 shots strike a mom in a mini-van? From what is reported here, it sounds like a case of contempt of cop. I hope things work out, but if the officer gets worked up like this at a pursuit, what else can happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlux View Post

    Later, a passenger in Weisz's car, Darrin Moran, called Reno County 911 and asked for help.

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    http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?S=5583976
    Perhaps the clue in this scenario is Reno 911
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