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    Setting record straight on famous (mis)quotes

    Setting record straight on famous (mis)quotes
    ‘Book of Quotations’ takes humbug out of history's best lines
    Reuters


    Updated: 11:30 a.m. ET Oct 26, 2006
    LOS ANGELES - Showman P.T. Barnum never said “There’s a sucker born every minute” although he wished he had. And Civil War Admiral David Farragut probably never said “Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead” — words that have inspired generations of fighting men.

    To make things even more complicated, it is doubtful that Paul Revere warned that “The British are coming” when he would have at the time of the American Revolution thought himself British, although a revolting one. He probably would have said “The Redcoats are coming.”

    A new, meticulously researched book of quotations attempts to set the record straight on those beloved phrases that have crept into everyday use as signs of wisdom and wit, including Sigmund Freud’s sage advice that “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.” (He didn’t quite say that, although his biographer thinks he would have approved of the idea.)

    “The Yale Book of Quotations” has a simple thesis: famous quotes are often misquoted and misattributed. Sometimes they are never said at all but are, instead, little fictions that have forged their way into public consciousness.

    Take, for example, “Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead,” a rallying cry supposedly uttered by Farragut during the American Civil War battle of Mobile Bay on Aug. 5, 1864.

    According to Fred R. Shapiro, a Yale librarian and editor of “The Yale Book of Quotations,” it was a comment either never said or at least never heard on the day of battle. The first appearance of a partial version of the phrase came in a book published in 1878 but reports from the day of the battle never mention the phrase.

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    It can get “curiouser and curiouser,” to quote something Lewis Carroll actually did write. Gen. William T. Sherman did not quite say “War is hell” but those were words uttered by Napoleon Bonaparte.

    Sherman’s version was a wee bit longer: “There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but boys it is all hell.” Close, but no cigar, as Groucho Marx might have said on his quiz show when someone failed to guess the color of an orange correctly.

    Showman Barnum admitted during his lifetime that he never said “There’s a sucker born every minute,” although he thought he may have said, “The people like to be humbugged,” a less than ringing phrase.

    According to research by Shapiro, the “sucker” phrase was probably uttered by a notorious con man named “Paper Collar Joe” and attributed to Barnum by a rival showman, who wanted to make him look bad.

    To find out who said what and when they did it, Shapiro spent six years poring over hundreds and hundreds of databases, using advanced Internet searches as well as using the more old-fashioned methods of going through microfilms, dusty bookshelves and reading the 1,000 or so other quotation books that are out there to find out the truth.

    For example, he went through all of Mae West’s pre-1967 movies to find out when she delivered one of her great sexual double entendres — “Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me.” He said the line was not in any of her movies, including the one her fans swear it was in, “She Done Him Wrong.”

    Instead, according to Shapiro, West used it to greet a policeman assigned to escort her. As she once said of herself, “I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.”

    The result, after six years of research, is a 1,067-page quotations book with footnotes that are as fascinating to read as the quotes themselves.

    Shapiro said he also had another goal: to represent popular culture in a quotations book, including advertising jingles and lines from popular songs and movies.

    As a result, he is able to get in print a couple of famous quotes from Marion Barry, the former mayor of Washington D.C.: “outside of the killing (Washington, D.C.) has one of the lowest crime rates in the country” and “Bitch set me up,” a comment he made when police arrested him for smoking crack cocaine.

    Not quite the lofty Shakespeare-style of previous quotations books. But the Bard is in the Yale book as well with 455 citations, the most of any author.


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