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    Which political party is more corrupt? Democrats four times more likely to be corrupt?

    Which party is more corrupt? Maybe you've seen lists. The National Taxpayer's Union has a pretty good list http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=343. The NTU's gripe, though, is not which party is more corrupt, but that Congressmen who are convicted felons continue to collect their very generous congressional pensions.

    The NTU's list is of "Members of Congress Who Were Convicted of or Pled Guilty to Major Offenses, 1992-1999." NTU staffers had to compile the list from Washington Post archives and Congressional Quarterly Yearly Almanacs. (It takes real work to compile an apples-to-apples, fair list.) Here is that list:

    • Nick Mavroules (D-MA). Tax evasion, accepting illegal gratuity, 1992.
    • Albert Bustamante (D-TX). Racketeering, 1993.
    • Carroll Hubbard (D-KY). Fraud and corruption, 1994.
    • Carl Perkins (D-KY). Fraud, 1994.
    • Charlie Rose (D-NC). Agreed to pay fine for financial disclosure irregularities, 1994.
    • Larry Smith (D-FL). Tax evasion, 1994.
    • Dave Durenberger (R-MN). Financial disclosure misdemeanor, 1995.
    • Walter Fauntroy (D-DC Delegate). Financial disclosure misdemeanor, 1995.
    • Gerald Kleczka (D-WI). Convicted of DWI, 1987. Arrested for DWI, 1990 and 1995.
    • Mel Reynolds (D-IL). Sexual misconduct, 1995.
    • Walter Tucker (D-CA). Extortion, 1995.
    • Charles Wilson (D-TX). Agreed to pay fine to Federal Election Commission, 1995.
    • Joe Kolter (D-PA). Fraud and conspiracy, 1996.
    • Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL). Mail fraud, 1996.
    • Wes Cooley (R-OR). Lying about war record in official voter pamphlet, 1997.
    • Jay Kim (R-CA). Campaign finance violations, 1998.
    • Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH). Financial disclosure irregularities, 1998.
    • Austin J. Murphy (D-PA). Voter fraud, 1999.

    By my count: 15 Democrats, 3 Republicans. Since then, we can add James Traficant (D-OH) and Randall Cunningham (R-CA). Call the score 16 to 4, Democrats leading.

    That would make Democrats 4 times (or 300%) more corrupt than Republicans.

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    I equate political corruption with treason, and both crimes should be punished by.......


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    Speaking of that... There's some indication that Obama's new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, may have discussed selling Obama's Senate seat with Blagojevich - However Emanuel may actually be the whistleblower. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

    In any case, add another corrupt one to the Democrat column .


    Obama aides won't discuss Ill. governor probe
    By NEDRA PICKLER – 5 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Barack Obama is refusing to answer any questions about the internal review he has ordered into Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's alleged efforts to sell his former Senate seat, saying he will do so when the examination is finished.

    Obama's staff has declined to respond to even basic questions, like who is conducting the probe, how long it will take, what issues are being explored and whether they are working with federal investigators. Obama has promised transparency throughout his service and to divulge contacts his staff has had with Blagojevich's office in the coming days. But his staff has locked down on inquiries in the meantime.

    The Obama transition team's refusal to talk has contributed to a maelstrom around Obama's incoming White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago congressman likely to have been in contact with the governor, who was arrested this week in a corruption scandal. But Emanuel is not a target of the probe, according to people who have been briefed on the investigation.

    The two people spoke on a condition of anonymity because the criminal investigation is ongoing. One is a person close to Emanuel, who said he has been told by investigators that he's not a subject of their probe.

    Asked if any conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were captured on government wiretaps, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said, "I honestly don't know." Other transition officials refused to respond to inquiries.

    There are no suggestions that Obama or his aides were involved in the alleged sale of his seat. U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said prosecutors were making no allegations that Obama was aware of any scheming. And Blagojevich himself, in taped conversations cited by prosecutors, suggested that Obama wouldn't be helpful to him and called him a vulgar term. Even if the governor was to appoint a candidate favored by the Obama team, Blagojevich said, "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation."

    Obama told reporters Thursday that he never personally spoke to Blagojevich about who would fill the seat he resigned to take over the presidency next month.

    "What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor's office," Obama said. "And we'll have those in the next few days, and we'll present them. But what I'm absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any dealmaking around my Senate seat. That I'm absolutely certain of."

    Another question that Obama's staff didn't answer is how he knows that his office had no involvement if he had yet to gather all the facts about conversations they had with Blagojevich's office. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, transition officials said they do not want to release any information on the internal review until it is completed.

    Republicans are using Obama's silence over the contacts his aides may have had with the governor to criticize him.

    "While it is encouraging that the president-elect has stated his office will disclose contacts with the scandal-ridden governor, it remains disappointing that his actions are in response to political pressure," Republican National Committee Chairman Robert M. "Mike" Duncan said. "Americans expect the highest degree of transparency from their elected leaders, rather than promises of openness on the campaign trail."

    The normally press-friendly Emanuel has shut down reporters who've been trailing his every move trying to confirm if he's the "president-elect adviser" referred to in the criminal complaint against Blagojevich. Emanuel grew testy with a Chicago Sun Times reporter who approached him at his children's recital and an ABC News cameraman who had been staking out the Emanuel home for hours and was allowed to come in and use the bathroom.

    Emanuel told the cameraman he's angry at the networks who have put his home address on national television.

    "I'm getting regular death threats," Emanuel said, according to an ABC report. "You've intruded too much."

    The Sun-Times reported that Emanuel pushed aside the reporter's recorder and said he wouldn't talk. "I'm not going to say a word to you. I'm going to do this with my children," he said.

    The limelight has fallen on Emanuel because conversations secretly recorded by federal investigators suggest Blagojevich wanted to raised large charitable donations in exchange for a favor involving the Illinois 5th District congressional seat that Emanuel plans to vacate to work in the White House.

    The complaint says that a week after Obama chose Emanuel as his chief of staff, Blagojevich told an aide that he wanted the unnamed "president-elect advisor" to be told of the governor's interest in creating a nonprofit group, and "can you guys help him . . . raise 10, 15 million"?

    Quoting Blagojevich talking about the adviser, it continues: "When 'he asks me for the Fifth CD thing I want it to be in his head.'" The complaint says Blagojevich was trying to determine whether he had the power to appoint an interim replacement until a special election for Emanuel's seat could be held.

    But Blagojevich was wrong if he thought he might have that power. By law, House vacancies can be filled only by elections.

    The complaint does not say that a conversation with the Obama adviser took place, nor does it suggest that the Obama team took any action regarding Blagojevich's idea for a nonprofit.

    Associated Press writer Lara Jakes Jordan contributed to this report

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