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01-27-09, 10:37 PM #1
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UN official: Enough evidence to prosecute Rumsfeld for war crimes
Monday, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak told CNN's Rick Sanchez that the US has an "obligation" to investigate whether Bush administration officials ordered torture, adding that he believes that there is already enough evidence to prosecute former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
"We have clear evidence," he said. "In our report that we sent to the United Nations, we made it clear that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld clearly authorized torture methods and he was told at that time by Alberto Mora, the legal council of the Navy, 'Mr. Secretary, what you are actual ordering here amounts to torture.' So, there we have the clear evidence that Mr. Rumsfeld knew what he was doing but, nevertheless, he ordered torture."
Asked during an interview with Germany's ZDF television on Jan. 20, Nowak said: "I think the evidence is on the table."
At issue, however, is whether "American law will recognize these forms of torture."
A bipartisan Senate report released last month found Rumsfeld and other top administration officials responsible for abuse of Guantanamo detainees in US custody.
It said Rumsfeld authorized harsh interrogation techniques on December 2, 2002 at the Guantanamo prison, although he ruled them out a month later.
The coercive measures were based on a document signed by Bush in February, 2002.
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01-27-09, 11:53 PM #2
Damnit, I'm hungry again.
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I wonder if Obama is going to offer everyone in the former Administration to the UN? I hope not.
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01-28-09, 12:16 AM #3
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I suggest if the UN wants to try an American citizen, we say....
"Come and get them."I'm your huckleberry...
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01-28-09, 12:17 AM #4
Damnit, I'm hungry again.
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Thats what I would prefer also. Unfortuately I think this president will be all to happy to hand people over
Originally Posted by maclean
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
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01-28-09, 12:25 AM #5
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In which case, those of us who care need to be vigilant and watchful, and prepared to act. Originally Posted by pgg
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Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!
You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.
I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...
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01-28-09, 12:30 AM #6
Damnit, I'm hungry again.
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'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
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01-28-09, 01:36 AM #7
Reed and Malloy were my FTOs
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Yep. And kick them the fuck out of this country and cut off the cash flow. See how long the UN lasts without US dollars. Does the UN care to prosecute a terrorist or two responsible for starting a war with this country by killing thousands of noncombatants? Originally Posted by maclean
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
Far from being a handicap to command, compassion is the measure of it. For unless one values the lives of his soldiers and is tormented by their ordeals , he is unfit to command.
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