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    No kidding.

    Senate GOP leader says party must change



    WASHINGTON – After crushing defeats in back-to-back elections, the top Senate Republican warned Thursday that the GOP risks remaining out of power in the White House and Congress unless it better explains its core principles to woo one-time faithful and new loyalists.
    "The results of the two recent elections are real, and so are the obstacles we face as a party," Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., told the Republican National Committee on Thursday. "My concern is that unless we do something to adapt, our status as a minority party may become too pronounced for an easy recovery."
    "The situation is challenging, but it's far from irreversible," McConnell added, a dash of optimism in an otherwise stark assessment of where the Republican Party went wrong as he provided a road map for how it can right itself.
    He spoke to Republicans gathered in Washington to choose the next national chairman; four candidates are trying to unseat former President George W. Bush's hand-picked RNC chairman, Mike Duncan of Kentucky. The vote is Friday.
    Implicit in McConnell's message was the concern that the Republican Party under Bush strayed from its beliefs, resulting in drubbings in two straight elections.
    While McConnell praised Bush as a man of principle, he said: "We can all agree, sad as it is, that he wasn't winning any popularity contests. And history shows that unpopular presidents are usually a drag on everybody else who wears their political label."
    McConnell called for the GOP to embrace its conservative principles — and resist diluting its message — to bring people back and attract new rank-and-file. Still, he added: "It's clear our message isn't getting out to nearly as many people as it should ... Too often we've let others define us. And the image they've painted isn't very pretty."
    I'm stunned.

    He acknowledged GOP fears that certain demographics from certain regions have shunned the party. And, he warned: "In politics, there's a name for a regional party: it's called a minority party."
    Just eight years after Republicans controlled the White House and Congress, the GOP finds itself out of power and trying to figure out how to rebound while its foe has grown much stronger. The Democratic Party is empowered by a broadened coalition of voters — including Hispanics and young voters — who swung behind President Barack Obama's call for change.
    Meanwhile, Bush left the White House with very low job approval ratings, Republicans saw their ranks in Congress grow even smaller and the party finds itself without a standard-bearer. Perhaps even more damaging to the GOP, the slice of the country that calls itself Republican has shrunk over the past few years as Obama and his Democrats attracted voters of all political stripes.
    Among those challenging Duncan are: former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, South Carolina GOP chairman Katon Dawson and Michigan GOP chairman Saul Anuzis.
    Former Tennessee GOP chairman Chip Saltsman, whose bid faltered after he mailed a song titled "Barack the Magic Negro" to committee members, (whoops, I seem to have misplaced my commonsense)didn't file the necessary paperwork to be nominated and considered for the post, and said in a letter to Republicans: "I have decided to withdraw my candidacy."
    Awww, what's the matter? Not evwerywon agree wif you? Poor wittle ting.

    All of Duncan's challengers have spent the past few months arguing that he simply represents a continuation of Bush; Duncan has argued he has the experience to make necessary changes.
    Republicans say it's all but certain no one will get a majority on the first ballot when the 168-member RNC votes. Republicans say Duncan leads in endorsements for a second two-year term, with Steele, Dawson and Anuzis in competitive positions, while Blackwell trails.
    Still, with at least two rounds of balloting expected, it's possible anyone could end up with a majority.




    Maybe there is still hope.
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    The conservative party is what it is...conservative. Whether you like it or not, it shouldn't change from its principles because that wouldn't be conservative. Seems pretty simple to me.

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    Agreed. However the message is not getting out. And with dumbasses like listed above doing stupid shit like the video thing, its a message people turn a deaf ear to.
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    See my post on Michael Steele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Agreed. However the message is not getting out. And with dumbasses like listed above doing stupid shit like the video thing, its a message people turn a deaf ear to.
    You got that right - To put it like Winston Churchill might have said it:

    "Stupid shit gets halfway around the world before smart shit has a chance to get its pants on."

    And here's some advice he had - he could have been talking about the GOP:

    "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results."

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    Just so I'm not misunderstood I don't want the party to change. I just want a proper message out and knock off the dumbshit.

    Too often we've let others define us. And the image they've painted isn't very pretty."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Just so I'm not misunderstood I don't want the party to change. I just want a proper message out and knock off the dumbshit.
    I'll go farther... I want the party to change.

    I want it to remember what most defines it, and recapture its conservative mission.

    I want it to remember where it came from, and quit trying to play everyone else's game.

    I want it to quit attempting to be all things to all people, that's the liberal's place.

    I want it to hold a strong defense, immigration reform, low taxation, and personal responsibility as its banners.

    I want it to respond with facts and issues to those who belittle and insult it.

    Most of all, I want it to be unapologetic about where it stands.

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    I don't want core principles to change. The image that is being projected....yes.
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    I'm with CB. I want it to change. It's been a lame party the last 8 years, failing to institute any significant government reform. I'm hopeful that the current situation will run off the liberals out of the party and return control to the conservatives. We can't out liberal the liberals so we just need to be conservative and stick with what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    I don't want core principles to change. The image that is being projected....yes.
    That's the other problem though... Core principles may not have changed, but they've been ignored - In trying to find the "center", the party has driven itself into the ditch.

    Unfortunately, I think the era of Reagan and Gingrich trying to cut taxes and spending has been so slandered by the other side and the media, the party has tried to be more like Democrats (i.e., George Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism", then the trend continued when McCain took the wheel) - But the GOP is a poor imitation of Democrats that neither conservatives nor liberals can swallow.

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