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    White House: DEA Raids in Medical Marijuana States Will Stop

    No sooner was President Obama sworn in than the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) decided to provoke him.
    Two days after the January 20 inauguration - before the Senate had confirmed the nomination of Attorney General Eric Holder - the DEA raided a medical marijuana dispensary in South Lake Tahoe, California, one of the states that has made such facilities legal. This, with full knowledge that as a presidential candidate Obama had pledged to discontinue such raids...


    Yesterday, the DEA carried out multiple raids at medical marijuana clinics in the Los Angeles area. According to MSNBC:
    A Los Angeles police spokesperson said the department, which is normally notified of such operations, got no advance warning from DEA.
    In other words, the DEA was so worried that the LAPD might alert the White House of its plans beforehand and so it bypassed the normal procedure there.
    This has of course led to a chorus of Chicken Little-ing from some corners of drug policy reform that Obama and/or Holder never intended to keep Obama's campaign promise to end the raids in states that permit medical marijuana clinics for patients with cancer, glaucoma, AIDS and other ailments treated by the plant.
    Today, the White House made it clear to the Reuters news agency that the DEA is acting without its blessing:
    White House spokesman Nick Shapiro on Wednesday reiterated Obama's stance that "federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws."
    "And as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind," Shapiro said.
    So, everybody chill. Rome wasn't destroyed in a day. Although there are some economic libertarians, Ron Paul enthusiasts, and beautiful losers in parts of the drug policy reform milieu that apparently would rather see the Obama administration break its promises - so as to be able to crow that nothing ever changes and to be able to continue their own daily poutrage - the vast majority of us absolutely want the raids to end and understand it will take not a lot, but yes a little bit, of time to clear the bureaucracy of insubordinates and steer the ship of Justice back on track.
    Meanwhile, if patience is that hard, there's probably a medicine somewhere that can help.

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    Legalize marijuana and it no longer becomes an issue.

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    Rather than go on a rant, I'll just sum it up in one sentence: Legalization will NOT solve the problem.
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    Of course not. Alcohol is an excellent example of that.

    But how many gang or turf wars do you see over alcohol in the US in comparison?

    The DEA needs this war to stay as an agency. The same as F Troop needs gun laws to stay alive.

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    While I really don't feel like another drug debate- I think most of us (most of us) can agree marijuana should be legalized. We've seen time and again how alcohol is way more dangerous of a drug. If Obama does one good thing as President, let it be this.
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    Jeezuz... here we go again.

    Nope, not doing it...


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    Alcohol has negatives, Pot has negatives, Both have positives as well (Alcohol helps ugly people have sex, Pot helps people with medical issues)

    Hell, the social stigma is going away, I really dont like the idea that its a gate way drug, because Alcohol can be a gate way drug.

    I dont know, So I guess if we have more people sitting on their couch eating cheetos while having the giggles... well... oh well.

    Hell Tax the crap out of it and put some money back into econ
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    Quote Originally Posted by countybear View Post
    Jeezuz... here we go again.

    Nope, not doing it...

    How was what I posted not on topic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoestring View Post
    Alcohol has negatives, Pot has negatives, Both have positives as well (Alcohol helps ugly people have sex, Pot helps people with medical issues)
    I guess which of those positives is more indispensable depends on one's priorities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    How was what I posted not on topic?
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    While I really don't feel like another drug debate..
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    Nope, not doing it...
    Quote: (also posted by Rhino):
    I think most of us (most of us) can agree marijuana should be legalized.
    I think you should quantify who you refer to as "us", then prove (or at least support) your contention. I also think that should be done in a separate thread, or else dig up and resurrect the old debate threads on this if you are so inclined. If you don't feel like another drug legalization debate, then don't make unsubstantiated claims that incite debate. You are not 'most' of us, you are one of us, that is, if you are referring to law enforcement officers...

    Quote: Originally posted by Morris:
    The DEA needs this war to stay as an agency. The same as F Troop needs gun laws to stay alive.
    Federal acceptance of medically prescribed cannabis is no threat to the DEA whatsoever, I assure you. Just as loosening gun laws would not threaten the ATF, nor would a flat or "fair" tax ever completely abolish the IRS.

    If you are referring to legalization of ALL currently 'controlled' substances, then perhaps the DEA would be reduced to importation and revenue oversight.

    Now then, to the topic:

    Notice how completely editorialized this 'news' story is. It looks like it was authored by a "High Times" stringer:

    No sooner was President Obama sworn in than the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) decided to provoke him...
    Do you think this reporter was in a room with the administration of the DEA, and heard them say "Screw Obama, we're going in"? I seriously doubt it.

    Anyone who has worked with feds before well knows that operations like this are usually months in the planning stages. Giving the nod to going ahead with them might be construed as thumbing of the nose to the new president, perhaps, but a raid being conducted with the specific intent to piss off the new boss is highly unlikely.

    In other words, the DEA was so worried that the LAPD might alert the White House of its plans beforehand and so it bypassed the normal procedure there.
    I love when a reporter says, "In other words...". What he is actually saying is: "In MY OPINION..."

    the vast majority of us absolutely want the raids to end...
    Term, did you get this "story" from the Bob Marley fanclub newsletter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countybear View Post
    Term, did you get this "story" from the Bob Marley fanclub newsletter?

    I got the article from the same place I get all of my news, Drew Curtis' FARK.com. The story has been posted on the Daily Kos, and originated from www.narcosphere.narconews.com.

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    Real weak rebuttal, CB. I was disappointed.

    However, I will start a new thread in the Rhino section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    Real weak rebuttal, CB. I was disappointed.
    I'm saving myself for marriage.

    However, I will start a new thread in the Rhino section.
    Good call.

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    I'm just an old fu**er and worked drugs for 11 1/2 years. Legalization is a cop out and bulls**t. I have seen to much s**t caused by MJ. IMFO, FWEIW
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    While I certainly respect your opinion, Narco, there are Former Narcs who did UC work for the better part of 3 decades. They saw the War on Drugs as the failing policy it is and founded Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP). In my opinion the only copout is the lack of willingness to realize what we are doing now isn't working and will never work.

    I look forward to hearing your points in the thread I started in the Rhino section.
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    Smoke it up you fucking hippies. Without any balls you'll weed yourselves out in no time.

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    Sounds like Darwinism to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    While I really don't feel like another drug debate- I think most of us (most of us) can agree marijuana should be legalized.
    you crack me up...
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    I live in NYC. Marijuana is the gateway to other, more potent drugs. When Marijuana doesnt give you the high you need, you crave for more. Its not about whether it should be legalized.. or whether the war on drugs is a failure. Its about the addiction. Some can use it recreationally and walk away. Alot like alcohol, but from the stand point of watching my own family members like uncles and cousins waste away and become nothing more than skells, it all started with taking a tote from a friend who told them it wasnt addictive. If you want your kids to succeed in life... preach to them daily to stay away from that first "hit".

    In the beginning of the last century, it was widely believed that opium and cocaine were safe to use recreationally. It destroyed lives, whole families. I have seen this continue first hand. We execute warrants in the PJs and see the destruction. Addiction is passed down genetically. People will still kill each other over drugs or the need for drugs whether its legalized or not. I dont think the United States of America should be in the narco business. As it is, our country is on the verge of collapse, and I cant believe this thread or President.

    I hope this was all a joke.
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    If alcohol were suddenly discovered today, it would be a Schedule II controlled substance. Don't kid yourself, alcohol is the gateway drug for most people.

    The only time marijuana worries me is when kids start using it. They seem to drop out of life. A lot of adults can seem to use it like alcohol, just to relax, etc. But teenagers just become inert.
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