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    Arlen Specter Goes Home

    Arlen Specter has joined the Democratic Party as of today.

    Arlen Specter Switching Parties Today - HUMAN EVENTS

    Arlen Specter Switching Parties Today
    by Human Events

    04/28/2009



    HUMAN EVENTS has learned from staff sources that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) is about to announce his switch to the Democratic Party.

    Specter, a five-term Republican and ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, is facing a tough primary challenge next year from former Club for Growth president Pat Toomey. He was one of the three Republicans to support President Obama’s stimulus bill, and his liberal approach to many issues -- from his devoted opposition to the Supreme Court nomination of Robert Bork to his support for illegal alien amnesty programs -- earned him a low ACU rating of 43 in 2006. This switch will give the Democrats their 60-seat filibuster-proof majority.

    According to the Washington Post, Specter said today, "I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary," said Specter in a statement. "I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my candidacy for re-election determined in a general election."





    The Post also reports that he added: "Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans."

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    Good riddance. One of the biggest mistakes Bush made was supporting him in his last primary race. No loss to the GOP since he votes like a Democrat anyway.
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    Good riddance. One article quoted him as saying he was switching because he was shocked that Republicans wouldn't automatically support him in the next primary
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    Anybody else notice how the coverage of Senator Specter's party switch has knocked the Air Force One flap right off the major news networks. Hmmmm
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    If you somehow believe that federal government has no means of twisting or directing the MSM outlets arouns, I've got an island in the Florida Keys to sell you.

    Specter has been a RINO for at least a decade. He jumped parties because he wants to stay in power, not serve his people.

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    He saw the writing on the wall that they were going to vote his ass out in the Republican primary.

    Hopefully even the Democrats will see through that bullshit.

    When they finally sue Franken into the Senate, they will have their 60.
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    Well, I guess i you're not in lock step with Christian conservatives, you have no place in the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    Well, I guess i you're not in lock step with Christian conservatives, you have no place in the GOP.

    Actually, if that was the case John McCain wouldn't have been the Republican Presidential Nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    Well, I guess i you're not in lock step with Christian conservatives, you have no place in the GOP.
    That's a load of horseshit.

    He's not in "lockstep" with anyone except tax and spend Democrats.

    Your bias is showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Actually, if that was the case John McCain wouldn't have been the Republican Presidential Nominee.
    Preeee-cisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    Well, I guess i you're not in lock step with Christian conservatives, you have no place in the GOP.
    The Republican party is supposed to be the conservative party. Because of people like Specter and Snow and the other Democrats in Republican clothing the GOP squandered its power and failed to do any significant government reform. So many conservatives were pissed off at the GOP they sat out in 06 and 08. With Specter and other RINO's in the lead the GOP has become just the less kooky wing of the Democratic Party.

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    Actually, if that was the case John McCain wouldn't have been the Republican Presidential Nominee.
    McCain was the nominee because of Democrats voting in open primaries and liberal Republicans drinking the media's Kool Aid. He's the RINO in Chief and disliked by conservatives who know his record. I wouldn't have voted for his ticket had he not had a conservative running mate. It would have been a massive landslide as most of the GOP would have sat out the 08 election or voted for a third party candidate. Without Palin, McCain would have been the only one at the party.

    People like Specter and McCain are why conservatives are talking about a third party. Without the conservatives the GOP will never win any elections and the Dems will remain firmly in charge. I think this is what Snow, McCain, and Specter really want. They know they aren't Republicans, they have to lie about their conservative credentials to win elections. Steele better start working on the broken primary system or it's going to be more of the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    Well, I guess i you're not in lock step with Christian conservatives, you have no place in the GOP.
    ... and even more would have us believe that if we, (the people) aren't in lock-step with the Obama green, ACORN-elected, entitlement pandering, abortion-loving, big government, anti-free market, wealth-grabbing, tax and spend socialist liberals, we'll have no place (or even representation) in America. I don't buy that, either (yet).

    Specter fears being tossed out on his can by an up-and-coming conservative, so he hides under Obama's coat-tails hoping for redemption. Good luck with that, Arlen.

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    I'd be glad to see conservatives in the GOP. No need for lock step, and they could be agnostic for all I care.

    The loss of Specter seems, to me, a benefit in the long term health of that party. Encourage rats to jump ship.

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    The republican party used to be a party that had a broader base, that was generally for smaller government, particularly at the federal level.

    Now the party seems to have been hijacked by religious conservatives. Moderate and libertarian minded republicans don't have a seat at the table.

    What happened to the GOP for smaller government? President Bush signed off on TSA, medicare part d, and No Child Left Behind.

    What has galvanized the party recently? Abortion and gay marriage.

    It seems to me that the party is narrowing it's focus on the wrong issues, and it's in danger of losing even more of it's influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    The republican party used to be a party that had a broader base, that was generally for smaller government, particularly at the federal level.

    Now the party seems to have been hijacked by religious conservatives. Moderate and libertarian minded republicans don't have a seat at the table.

    What happened to the GOP for smaller government? President Bush signed off on TSA, medicare part d, and No Child Left Behind.

    What has galvanized the party recently? Abortion and gay marriage.

    It seems to me that the party is narrowing it's focus on the wrong issues, and it's in danger of losing even more of it's influence.
    You compare political conservatism to moral conservatism, and say that the moral 'galvanizes' the party, saying that you believe the party has been 'hijacked'. Perhaps the truest of conservatives that has ever served as President was, of course, Ronald Reagan, and he was certainly a political, social, fiscal, and moral conservative. Did Reagan-era conservatives really 'hijack' the Republicans? Or did they help the party truly and clearly define itself as the party of conservatism? I certainly believe the latter is true.

    If any party was ever 'hijacked', it was the Dems, who originated as the party of traditionally 'moral' conservatism, but has lost every semblance of conservatism that it ever posessed.

    How quickly moral liberals jump to point fingers at what they term to be the 'religious' aspects of Republicans as a party, just as they have been conditioned to do by the spoonfeeders and spin-meisters. Of course, its trendy and popular to attack moral conservatives and especially Christians right now.

    If my only issue with Republican conservatism was abortion and gay rights, and all other aspects of a party's platform was in reasonable agreement with my views, wouldn't fracturing the party be a plunge into the abyss of obstinance, and a complete compromise of the larger scale of my own beliefs and values?

    The only 'exclusionists' are those who would reject broad-based conservatism over two aspects of the entire package, thereby guaranteeing that the liberal opposition wins. This selfish, whiny, despoiled attitude is not characteristic of true conservatives, who believe in serving the greater good of the people by empowering the individual. Empowerment of the people is translated as not viewing them as helpless, mindless masses and demanding subservance to the greater power; government. Whether we like or agree with it, this country has a two-party system, and those who refuse to accept that are simply refusing to accept the reality of the age. Those who opt to refuse to support the legitimate political party that most closely represents their personal political values actually serve to bolster the party which is diametrically opposed. Their chaotic rebellion mutes their own voices and they create, in another Republican President, Lincoln's words, "A house divided..."

    Now in such a scenario, who's really the narrow-minded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Mack View Post
    The republican party used to be a party that had a broader base, that was generally for smaller government, particularly at the federal level.

    Now the party seems to have been hijacked by religious conservatives. Moderate and libertarian minded republicans don't have a seat at the table.

    What happened to the GOP for smaller government? President Bush signed off on TSA, medicare part d, and No Child Left Behind.

    What has galvanized the party recently? Abortion and gay marriage.

    It seems to me that the party is narrowing it's focus on the wrong issues, and it's in danger of losing even more of it's influence.
    You have accepted a history of the party that has been provided to you by Democratic operatives.

    It's the same shill we are hearing from McCain's daughter - and it just isn't so.

    As for libertarian conservatives not having a seat - I am one, and I certainly do not feel disenfranchised.
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    Preview of the Republican message in the next election cycle? Great, so the idea is "do what they're doing". Jeb's plan sounds the same as Arlen's - if you can't beat'em, join'em - with the difference being Jeb wants to fly that under the Republican banner. That's what I got out of it.

    Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind
    Party leaders go on 'listening tour' with eyes on future

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    Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.

    "You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that," Mr. Bush said.

    The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.

    "So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.

    "From the conservative side, it's time for us to listen first, to learn a little bit, to upgrade our message a little bit, to not be nostalgic about the past because, you know, things do ebb and flow."

    The Florida governor joined former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and House Republican Whip Eric Cantor on Saturday at a small pizza parlor in Arlington for the inaugural event of the National Council for a New America (NCNA).

    Mr. Cantor said meeting with ordinary folks is the key way "to begin a conversation with the American people" and explain Republican principles to anyone who will listen.

    Mr. Romney, a failed 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said his party has got to do a better job of listening. "Let's not underestimate the people of America; let's make sure and listen to the people of America ... listen to what they're feeling and get their ideas," he said.

    The NCNA - with a "national panel of experts" made up of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Mr. Bush and Mr. Romney - says the goal of the listening tour is not to recast the party.

    "This is not about messaging, this is not about branding," Mr. Cantor told The Washington Times. "This is about trying to foster some discussion, because what's going on in Washington right now is not reflective of the mainstream of this country.

    "The Republican Party is founded on some common-sense conservative principles that are as effective today as they've always been. We just need to make sure we're listening to the people," he said.

    Mr. Romney said as well there will be no wholesale changes to the core tenets of the party. "I think the principles remain the same," he told The Times after the hourlong session. "I think we have to be very clear in what we stand for and make sure that the American people understand that we're in this to help America's future and their families."

    Republicans were hammered in the 2006 midterm elections - losing the House and Senate in what former President George W. Bush called a "thumpin' " - and Mr. Obama won a slew of once-staunch Republican states in his decisive 2008 victory. Many in the party were not thrilled with GOP candidate Mr. McCain, a self-described "maverick" who often shunned core Republican principles.

    Since the election, the party has fallen into disarray. Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele is not particularly popular among the conservative core; and while the 2012 election seems far off, the next election is 18 months away.

    Adding to their woes, Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania announced last week that he would switch parties and become a Democrat, citing his disgust with the big-tent party under President Reagan that he said is now far more exclusionary.

    Although the three potential Republican candidates had their shirtsleeves buttoned at the wrist during the informal pizza parlor session, they said they planned to roll up their sleeves and get to work rebuilding the party.

    "Our party has taken its licks over the last couple of cycles," Mr. Cantor said. "No one is under any illusion about that. But that's why we're here ... to re-engage and partner with the people of this country. ... We're looking to the future."

    Said Mr. Romney: "For America to move forward, they're going to want to see a party that has answers, not politics."

    While he said. "We don't have to come up with all the answers today, thank heaven," he added, "but certainly by 2010, we better."

    Mr. Bush was the most forthright of the panel, repeatedly returning to the notion of looking forward, of the need to first and foremost "create a consensus around 21st-century ideas that truly matter for American families."

    "We have principles, we have values. They are the values that are shared by the majority of Americans, there's no question about it. But we have to now take those principles and values and apply them to the challenges that our country faces today and in the future. ...

    "And then, hopefully - God willing - [we] embrace our conservative principles and take these new ideas and present them to the American people," he said.

    The message resonated with many of those who turned out at the Pie-Tanza restaurant, right in the heart of a firmly liberal community.

    "We don't have to compromise our beliefs," said Brian Summers, a black Republican from the District. "This is our party, our country. We should stand strong, stay faithful to what we firmly believe, and go forward."

    But Mike Collins, a former RNC press secretary from Vienna, Va., who now runs a public-relations firm, said there is an urgent need for the party to rethink its strategy.

    "We need to be much more articulate and reach out to demographics we're not reaching right now - Hispanics, suburban women, regions of the country that currently we're not effectively talking to," he said.

    Mario H. Lopez, president of the Hispanic Leadership Fund, agreed, and he applauds the effort by the Republican leaders.

    "It starts with showing up, with listening. It starts with making an effort. We really hope that they'll do that," he said.

    But the Hispanic leader closed with a warning: "The fact is, if they want to be a governing majority again, they have to do that."

 

 

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