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    Obama Proposes Cutting Slain Officers Program by Nearly Half, Based on 'Decrease' in Expected Claims

    By DEVLIN BARRETT
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    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration wants to cut almost in half a benefits program for the families of slain police and safety officers.

    The president's proposed budget calls for cutting the Public Safety Officers' Death Benefits Program from $110 million to $60 million.

    The Justice Department insisted no one would lose benefits.

    "Any family member who is eligible for benefits under this program will receive them," said Justice Department spokeswoman Melissa Schwartz.

    Budget documents say the reduction is being made because "claims are anticipated to decrease," apparently because the number of officers killed in the line of duty has been decreasing.

    The proposal is being made just days before Attorney General Eric Holder is expected to attend ceremonies in Washington honoring slain officers.

    "It makes us kind of nervous. While we aren't panicking, it certainly has increased our concern, coming a week before National Police Week," said Suzie Sawyer, executive director of Concerns of Police Survivors, a group taking part in next week's events.

    Sawyer said as long as the number of police and safety officers killed doesn't increase too much, the amount of money offered in the budget could be enough. And she noted that in the past, the government has found more money for the program when it needed more, such as following the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

    The program pays benefits of more than $300,000 to the survivors of a safety officer killed in the line of duty.

    There were 133 police officers killed in the line of duty last year, the lowest amount since 1960, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

    The group said killings of police officers are up 21 percent so far in 2009, compared to the same period the year before.
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    Oh boy.

    Well, we have to buy health care for illegals - money has to come from somewhere.

    How about increasing the benefit? Naaaah, he has to say he is saving 17 billion from the budget he increased by 40 times that.
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    Obama Cuts to Include Slain Officer Benefits

    Federal spending cuts of $17M are only token compared to the budget, but its interesting to see what Obama considers superfluous...

    Obama touts $17 billion 'lot of money' budget cuts

    By TOM RAUM and ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writers Tom Raum And Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 26 mins ago

    WASHINGTON President Barack Obama sent Congress a detailed budget Thursday boasting of cutting or killing 121 federal programs in a belt-tightening he likened to that of most Americans in difficult times. But the trims amounted to a tiny fraction of the new spending he wants, and some have already been nixed by allies on Capitol Hill.

    Obama said his cuts would amount to $17 billion in a budget totaling well over $3 trillion for the fiscal year that begins in October. He's estimating the government's red ink will still be about $1.2 trillion, down only slightly from this year's all-time record.

    Republicans scoffed that Obama's cuts were not nearly enough. "They appear to be a diversionary tactic an effort to change the subject away from the unprecedented debt this budget heaps on future generations," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.

    On the other hand, some of Obama's proposed trims are recycled from George W. Bush's hit list and won't be popular with some Democrats. For instance, he proposed ending a $400 million-a-year program that pays states and counties for keeping illegal immigrants in their jails a Bush idea rejected previously by the Democratic-controlled Congress.
    The president defended proposed cuts that he portrayed as a mix of some "more painful than others."

    "In Washington, I guess that's considered trivial. Outside of Washington, that's still considered a lot of money," he said. "But these savings, large and small, add up."
    If there was a theme to Obama's cuts and spending initiatives, it was to continue to provide generous increases to domestic programs that had been squeezed during the eight years of the Bush administration while reviving oft-rejected Bush-era proposals to cut programs that critics say have outlived their usefulness but still have important support on Capitol Hill.

    "What we're trying to do is reorient government activity toward things that work," said White House Budget Director Peter Orszag.

    Obama proposed:
    Ending $26 billion in oil and gas industry tax breaks, which he called "unjustifiable loopholes" in the tax system that other industries do not get.

    Slashing almost in half a benefits program for the families of slain police and safety officers from $110 million to $60 million.

    Eliminating federal support for a $35 million-a-year radio-based marine navigation system rendered obsolete by the satellite-based Global Positioning System.

    Doing away with a $142 million program to help states pay to clean up abandoned mines.

    Abolishing an Education Department attache's post in Paris, at a savings of $632,000 per year.

    He called for a $3 increase in per-segment air fare taxes starting in 2012, which would raise the maximum fee from $5 to $11 per trip as a way to finance airport security screenings

    In over 1,500 pages, Obama sought to flesh out the bare-bones budget outline he submitted in February shortly after taking office. Both the House and Senate last week approved a $3.4 trillion budget blueprint reflecting most of Obama's priorities and clearing the way for new spending on health care, energy and education. More details are due from the White House next week.

    On the spending side, Obama's new details emphasized substantial increases for his domestic priorities.


    He proposed:
    Plowing $2 billion more into merit-based teacher pay to help failing schools turn around. He would spend $370 million on a successor to the Reading First literacy program, a key element of Bush's No Child Left Behind law.

    Spending an additional $584 million for pandemic flu efforts, on top of the $1.5 billion in emergency money for 2009 that he asked Congress for in the wake of the swine flu outbreak.

    Increasing child nutrition programs by $1 billion, partly to pay for a 20 percent increase in the number of food inspectors.

    Setting up a $1 billion program to develop or rehabilitate housing for the poor.
    Obama proposed more money for the Labor Department to hire about 1,000 new employees, including 670 new investigators and other staffers to enforce safety, health, minimum wage, overtime and other laws.

    "We'll begin to restore worker protection programs after years of decline," said Labor Secretary Hilda Solis.

    The relatively modest scope of Obama's proposed cuts amounting to about one half of one percent of spending led to a sometimes contentious briefing with White House press secretary Robert Gibbs.

    "I've said this before, and I'll say it again: $17 billion is a lot of money to people in America. I understand that it might not be to some people in this town, but that's probably why we're sitting on a $12 trillion American Express bill," Gibbs said, referring to the $10.7 trillion national debt.

    Jared Bernstein, Vice President Joe Biden's top economic aide, said in an interview that the value of the budget cuts goes beyond their monetary value. "We need to take that kind of close look, that kind of scrutiny, of all the government spending that we're doing," he said.

    Fellow Democrats may well reject some of those revisions, including Obama's proposal to stop paying states and counties that keep illegal immigrants in their jails. He also proposed doing away with Even Start, a $66 million program to promote child literacy that the administration argues is not as effective as other early-childhood education programs like Head Start.

    Bush had sought to end both programs only to be rebuffed by the Democratic Congress.

    Lawmakers from the potent California, New York and Florida delegations are sure to fight the proposed elimination of the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program, the one that helps states house illegal immigrants in jails.

    "None of this will be easy," Obama said, facing cameras at the White House with Orszag standing behind him.

    Stanley Collender, a former congressional budget expert, said that $17 billion in cuts was significant in these recessionary times when increased spending is deemed to be more justified than usual. Furthermore, Obama had used the cuts to offset some of his proposed spending increases.

    That was a nod to fiscally conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats, said Collender, now with Qorvis Communications, a Washington consulting firm.

    "Are the cuts enough to balance the budget? No, of course not. But that wasn't the point," he said.

    Despite redoubling its efforts to portray itself as tough on waste and spending, the administration and Congress have taken the nation on a steady course of higher federal spending. In rapid succession has come passage of a $787 billion economic recovery bill, a $410 billion omnibus appropriations bill and Congress' $3.4 trillion budget for next year, which calls for increases of almost 10 percent over current funding for non-defense agency budgets.

    Even as Obama spoke, a key House panel was adding about $12 billion to his war-spending request.

    Many items in the budget are about more than money.

    It affirms the administration's prohibition on so-called warrantless wiretapping the Bush administration electronic surveillance program.

    And it would provide $197 million to find an alternative to the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste project in Nevada, another setback to the nuclear power industry from the administration but a welcome gesture to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who has long sought to block the project 90 miles from Las Vegas.

    Obama said that Americans are tightening their belts in difficult times and want to know if Washington "is prepared to act with the same sense of responsibility."
    "I believe we can and must do exactly that," Obama said.

    Obama is claiming savings from eliminating a host of accounts typically earmarked by members of Congress such as a $10 million West Virginia highway project obtained by Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., and $15 million obtained by Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., for diesel emissions reduction grants.

    In fact, some of the cuts, like terminating production of C-17 cargo aircraft and phasing out direct payments to farmers with sales exceeding $500,000 annually, have already been rejected by Obama's allies in Congress.
    About half the budget savings would come from an effort by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to curb military programs, including ending production of the F-22 fighter and killing a much-maligned replacement helicopter fleet for the president that's way over budget.

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    I think if they let Me, Countybear, Maclean, and some others at the budget we could cut it signicantly in a good way and also reduce all of our tax rates across the board
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    Great minds thinking alike here, I merged your guys threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
    What a tool...
    ......and a very broken and inoperable one at that. Talk about a slap in the face of LE.

    The president's proposed budget calls for cutting the Public Safety Officers' Death Benefits Program from $110 million to $60 million.
    Getting the cart before the horse Obama? What if the fund runs out of money at the new budget setting? Many think we are going to get attacked again because of your stupidity. Are you going to look for more or are you going to say too bad so sad?

    The Justice Department insisted no one would lose benefits.

    "Any family member who is eligible for benefits under this program will receive them," said Justice Department spokeswoman Melissa Schwartz.
    That's what you say now.

    Budget documents say the reduction is being made because "claims are anticipated to decrease," apparently because the number of officers killed in the line of duty has been decreasing.
    How about you wait until after the fact instead of trying to predict the future on this one. If you have surplus money left over, THEN throw it at something else. Or how about this, use it to go towards next years fund. Oh no, you're not smart enough to figure that out.

    The program pays benefits of more than $300,000 to the survivors of a safety officer killed in the line of duty.
    Is this per each individual family member or the family as a whole? Just curious.

    I just got back yesterday from my local LE memorial celebration. Since I can't afford to go to the one on the state or national level, I figured that at least I can show my support by showing up to the local one. I don't even have a car. I rode a bicycle about 5 miles to this event. On country roads at that.

    No LE family wants to lose their loved one, but unfortunately due to the dangers of the job that you in LE all encounter, it does happen.

    I know the family of the LODD that I have posted below in my signature. They are wonderful people. I feel that they are like family to me. If that is the type of moral support that they give me, I can only imagine how they must feel towards their LE family. I was only their newspaper carrier at the time of the LODD. They have not been forgotten by their LE agency. They have supported other LE families that are going through the same thing that they had to go through, and will continue to do so. Because thats the kind of people that they are. Especially the ones that have had to go through court trials and facing the dirtbag criminal that senselessly murdered their loved one.

    The Concerns of Police Survivors is a great group and very much appreciated by those that have had to go through a LODD, especially a violent one.

    To threaten to shortchange the families that could use the money is unreal. Especially those that have just lost their breadwinner.


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    What a fine way to celebrate Law Enforcement Week. (You know, that week set aside each year to commemorate officers killed ILD?)

    Thanks for the slap in the face, Mr. President, and up yours, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Great minds thinking alike here, I merged your guys threads.
    It's about time I'm not wanted for just my body!

    hahahaha



    Seriously, I think the President's going downhill very quickly - even in the eyes of those who thought him "The Messiah."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
    It's about time I'm not wanted for just my body!

    hahahaha



    Seriously, I think the President's going downhill very quickly - even in the eyes of those who thought him "The Messiah."
    Well, he sure wasn't "The Messiah" that I sang about at Christmas.


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    this mother fracker pisses me off on a daily basis...

    I hope that none of his stuff happens... I hope that he becomes the most deadbeat pres in U.S. history... problem is, Congress has to start listening to the people and not their own pockets and own agendas...

    so likely my hopes won't happen...
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    The proposal is being made just days before Attorney General Eric Holder is expected to attend ceremonies in Washington honoring slain officers.
    I guess the President feels it necessary to toss his Attorney General under the bus instead of addressing us himself. I wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    I guess the President feels it necessary to toss his Attorney General under the bus instead of addressing us himself. I wonder why?
    To listen to Obama would be only hearing what his speechwriters think you want to hear anyway, old friend. He's a talking head, teleprompter reader, whose real feelings are only expressed to the likes of Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Farrakhan, Khalidi, and Phleger.

    I hate to have missed the trip, but I wouldn't have had any interest in hearing Obama had I been there. We've heard enough of that song and dance routine.

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