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07-08-09, 07:43 PM #1
A MUST READ: U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CLASSIFY PRO-LIFE, PRO-GUN AMERICANS AS TERRORISTS
An amendment to a bill swiftly moving through the US Congress will allow the Obama Administration's Attorney General to classify Americans as domestic terrorists if they are pro-life, pro-gun and anti-big government.
Impeached Florida judge -- now a Democrat Party member of the House of Representatives -- Rep. Alcee Hastings introduced what some claim is a disturbing piece of legislation. Hasting's amendment calls for the Attorney General to have discretion over who is called a terrorist and what groups will be treated as terrorist groups.
"This is arguably one of the worst pieces of legislation to come down the pike in a long, long time. In essence Attorney General Eric Holder -- a Bill Clinton retread -- will have the discretion to label Americans terrorists. Hastings is a dangerous man and should be forced to resign from congress. He's also proposed the creation of "emergency camps" that are nothing more than prisons," warns political strategist Mike Baker.
"This amendment is part and parcel of the trend in this country to suppress dissent by patriots by calling them domestic terrorists," he added.
In an unclassified report entitled "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," Secretary for Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and her agency included the following description of "extremists:"
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Last Thursday, Congressman Trent Franks (R-AZ) made the following remarks on the House Floor regarding Congressman Alcee Hastings’ (D-FL) amendment to the National Defense Authorization bill:
"The Hastings Amendment to the National Defense Authorization bill (which now is being considered en bloc) prohibits the recruitment, enlistment, or retention of persons with known affiliations to "groups determined by the Attorney General to be of a violent, extremist nature."
"Members on both sides of the aisle support the purpose of this amendment because we recognize that there are legitimate concerns about the enlistment of persons who may seek to use their military training to cause harm to innocents, but we should take pause to consider the breadth of this amendment carefully. I just want to express concern about the language of this amendment, and my concerns are shared by many in this House," said Rep. Franks.
"While the amendment seeks to keep gang members and members of violent groups out of the military, the amendment by its language is much more broad. Specifically, it confers upon the Attorney General the ability to categorize groups as hate groups, and this sounds an alarm for many of us because of the recent shocking and offensive report released by the Department of Homeland Security which labeled, arguably, a majority of Americans as "extremists," warned Franks.
"I take extreme offense that the federal government -- through a report issued under the authority of a Cabinet-level official -- would dare to categorize people who are "dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition or abortion or immigration" as "right-wing extremists" and it begs the question of whether the Attorney General, under Mr. Hastings' Amendment, can look to the Napolitano report to decide who is an extremist, or can make the same categorization of the majority of Americans as extremists who may then be kept from joining the military, or who may be discharged," said Rep. Franks.
"I want to state unequivocally that I believe that it is not the intent of this Congress to label pro-lifers, federalism proponents, and pro-immigration enforcement groups and their affiliates as extremists under the bill. My colleagues on the other side of the aisle should make a strong effort to assuage these concerns and make our intentions clear. If the intent of this amendment is to go after citizens because of their political views and moral convictions, then the amendment is unconstitutional. I hope that the sponsor of the Amendment will make clear tonight that this is not the intent," he added.
Rep. Alcee Hastings also introduced what many say is another disturbing piece of legislation. That new bill calls for the Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano to build at least six facilities that can be designated as "emergency centers. Hastings rationale for such facilities is to gather and "house" civilians on what are basically detention centers guarded by armed soldiers or paramilitary troops.
The House bill (HR 645) -- National Emergency Centers Establishment Act -- is not even on the radar of members of the elite media. According to critics of the plan, if passed the government will create camps or centers that by their nature restrict the activities of US citizens herded into them.
In fact, one provision -- Section 2 (b) (4) -- states: "[To] meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."
One critic, political strategist Mike Baker claims the idea of such detention center smacks of the type of concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany, Americans find repugnant.
"Why aren't the news media covering this story? Could it be because they fear being the first occupants of these so-called emergency installations? Where is the outrage by our nation's Fourth Estate?" asks Baker.
Hastings bill is suspected of attempting to help expand the President Obama's military and law enforcement powers. While Hastings pushes this bill, even Republican congressmen are hesitant to remind one another and the nation that this Florida congressman was impeached while he sat on Florida's federal court bench.
Appointed by President Jimmy Carter in 1979, he became the first African-American federal judge in the state of Florida, and served in that position for ten years. He’s still called “Judge” by some of his colleagues, but one would think he’d rather forget his days on the federal bench.
In 1989, Judge Hastings was impeached by the US House of Representatives for bribery and perjury. The Democratic-controlled Senate convicted Hastings of accepting a $150,000 bribe in 1981 in exchange for a lenient sentence and of perjury in his testimony about the case. Hastings said the charges against him smacked of racism.
Even Rep. John Conyers, who is also black, said he “found no trace of racism during the investigation.” He urged his colleagues to remove Hastings from the bench. He said, “[Hastings] is unfit to serve.”
When the ultra-liberal Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi nominated Hastings for the chairmanship of the House Intelligence Committee, even members of her own political party balked.
"The prospect of Rep. Alcee Hastings becoming the chairman of the House of Representative’s Intelligence Committee was proposed by Congressional Black Caucus, who had been pressuring the new House Speaker Pelosi to appoint blacks to key leadership positions and Hasting benefited from the pressure on the radical left Pelosi," said former Detective Sidney Frances (NYPD-ret.), himself an African-American.
While Hastings did not become chairman of that committee, he is a ranking member of the Homeland Security Subcommittee.
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07-08-09, 09:57 PM #2
This is a scary prospect. It seems like everyday we move closer to a socialist country and the sheeple just blindly follow it. The media seems to be overjoyed in the idea. I would like to hear Jenna's response and rational about these particular bills.
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
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07-08-09, 10:05 PM #3
I kill you.............
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
Far from being a handicap to command, compassion is the measure of it. For unless one values the lives of his soldiers and is tormented by their ordeals , he is unfit to command.
-General Omar Bradley, United States Army
Renniger-Richards-Griswold-Owens
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07-08-09, 10:18 PM #4
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07-08-09, 10:28 PM #5
Sounds like it will become illegal to be an evangelical, 2nd Amendment supporting Republican...
Right up this administration's alley.
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
Tell me not, Sweet, I am unkind,
That from the nunnery
Of thy chaste breast and quiet mind
To war and arms I fly. - Lovelace
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07-08-09, 11:35 PM #6
Wonder what happens when they figure out their own military is comprised of....
THIS POST INTERUPTED BY A FEDERAL SWAT TEAM - MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO SEE HERE.I'm your huckleberry...
Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!
You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.
I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...

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07-08-09, 11:43 PM #7
Well by definition, I'm sure they are right. I'm sure this administration is terrified of people like us who think for ourselves, aren't willing to give up our rights, exercise our rights, and don't buy the bullsh*t they try and cram down our throats on a daily basis.
Being serious now...this is appalling, but I'm not suprised. Letter enroute to my congressman/senator. Alot of f*in good that will do around here. In this state it's probably illegal to disagree with demorats
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07-09-09, 12:24 AM #8
I *would* have sent an email to my senator, but Norm Coleman was apparently beaten by Al Franken, so a lot of good that would do.
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07-09-09, 04:53 AM #9
Like the Soviet NKVD and STASI they like to define "enemies of the people". Then they turn PRAVDA and the schools onto it. Then they recruit informants, pay them well, and use technical violations to roll over people against their families and friends.
Expect the heavy use of informants to provide 'evidence' to Obama's secret police.
A guy who retired from my dept went to Eastern Europe as a police instructor. His comment about E Europe that I remember most was: "they practice police work like communist police forces all over the world. They round everybody up, take all them to the station, and everyone gets beat up. From there they determine the suspects, victims, witnesses.... the informants leave quickly, unharmed, with cash in hand.
These totalitarian lawyers in DC now, they are secret list-makers. They love secret names in their secret little dossiers, thru them they can threaten, or make people disappear. Their type is no surprise ; Dzerzhinsky, Himmler, Beria, Hoover, Reno, now Holder........
Imagine a uniformed FBI; with well paid and privileged Obamates in early 20's, usurping the state's constitutions and police authority. First they will knock and talk, then search your house, check your voting record, check your job site, check your finances, check what you read, cut off pensioins, cut off health care once they own it, ration food, ban guns, and require internal passports, and 'resettle' you. If you rat off someone else, they might let you keep some stale bread. Hitler's SS did just that from 1934 to 1945.
They might even find a modern version of Jurgen Stroop to clear out "infested" areas.Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same.-- Anonymous
Old People, like me, may not be around to witness the destruction of our Nation. The rest of you may not survive the collapse. We all have the sworn duty to prevent it.
The light of hope burns brighter than the fires of doom.
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07-09-09, 06:08 AM #10
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07-09-09, 06:39 AM #11
Interesting. The tone reminded me of fringe talk radio. Article source didn't disappoint with the banner across the top telling us "Food Shortages Are Coming!" as they try to sell, probably Y2K leftover, storable food.
So I go over to Google News, plug in HR 2647 to see what the "mainstream" media is writing about it. A picture of crickets popped up. Ok, no, there were stories, a whopping 23 of them in fact, though even most of those links are blogs.
Just for fun I put Michael Jackson in the same news search. Only 20,661 stories...related to the memorial service. Various other aspects got 2000 or so. Britney Spears hasn't done anything that I've heard about for months and she got 107 stories, and searching "my left foot" got me hundreds of articles about sports injuries. So I figure the bill number is too specific, "right wing terrorists" will hit the lottery. Nothing about this, mostly a story about support for Israel and the other worth note was from Scotland.
What do we have here? Paranoia over some lines in HR 2647 "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010", or a media establishment completely asleep at the switch?
I didn't look at the PDF of the bill itself, but if those quotes are accurate that question is self answering. Heck even if they're inaccurate it was more newsworthy than what we got. Instead the Filth Estate has replaced the Fourth Estate by reporting on dead pop stars, political scandals and other such "human interest" instead of anything remotely like news.
Originally Posted by Herzen
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07-09-09, 02:51 PM #12
It has a loophole you are a gangbanger who wants to enlist to learn how to fight, you renounce your gang affiliation to your CO then your good to go. after your enlistment you "Renounce your Renouncement. DUH

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07-09-09, 10:17 PM #13
Choose The Right. When you're doing whats right, then you have nothing to worry about.
Not a LEO
In memory of Sgt. Howard K. Stevenson 1965 - 2005. Ceres Police Dept.
In memory of Robert N. Panos 1955 - 2008 Ceres Police Dept.

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07-10-09, 04:02 PM #14
They fear this?
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
Tell me not, Sweet, I am unkind,
That from the nunnery
Of thy chaste breast and quiet mind
To war and arms I fly. - Lovelace
The opinions expressed by this poster are wholly his own, and should never be construed to even remotely be in representation of his employer, its agencies or assigns. In fact, they probably fail to be in alignment with the opinions of any rational human being.
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07-10-09, 04:42 PM #15SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
Far from being a handicap to command, compassion is the measure of it. For unless one values the lives of his soldiers and is tormented by their ordeals , he is unfit to command.
-General Omar Bradley, United States Army
Renniger-Richards-Griswold-Owens
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07-13-09, 07:32 AM #16
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
Left Wing (Democrats) want to destory America and its way of life. Period, no if ands or buts.
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