Climate Scientists Colluding?

**thanantos** · 11-24-09, 03:14 PM

Well we can agree on that. Science should be affected by politics.

I disregarded the Ben Stein movie becuase it was a movie about science by someone outside of science and very involved in politics, but maybe I'll watch it.

**Five-0** · 11-24-09, 03:19 PM

Ben Stein is an Economist. In my opinion, the environmentalist movement is where all the Communists/Free Market Capitalist haters went when the Soviet Union failed.

**Xiphos** · 11-24-09, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by thanantos

Well we can agree on that. Science should be affected by politics.

I disregarded the Ben Stein movie becuase it was a movie about science by someone outside of science and very involved in politics, but maybe I'll watch it.

Regardless of what you believe in the creation of life in the universe, it's an excellent example of academic persecution.

**TXCharlie** · 11-24-09, 05:43 PM

Does anyone know what the greatest "greenhouse gas" is? Its effects trump every other greenhouse gas by far.

HINT: It is not CO2.

Originally Posted by thanantos

Yeah, one small group of scientists who someone says they may have a piece of evidence that these scientists may have traded data means the whole thing is bunk.

Exactly - That's what all the UFO experts, Bigfoot experts, and other paranormal experts do - When they say they've done "research", they generally do not mean running experiments on their own, or getting out in the field to try to find a UFO or Bigfoot.

What they REALLY mean by research is sitting in the library reading each other's books.

**Five-0** · 11-24-09, 05:58 PM

That would be water vapor Chuck.

**Xiphos** · 11-24-09, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Five-0

That would be water vapor Chuck.

Oh my gosh! What can we do? We must implement water credits and reduce our liquid foot print!

**TXCharlie** · 11-24-09, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Five-0

That would be water vapor Chuck.

That would be correct - Even when the vapor condenses into clouds which cool on summer days, they reflect heat back to earth at night and in the winter/ That makes winter nights much more moderate than on cloudless nights, and makes summer nights warmer also.

Then there's millions of tons of invisible water vapor which allows the sunlight through, but also holds the heat in.

**Five-0** · 11-24-09, 06:36 PM

That smiley gets me everytime.

**Notorious** · 11-24-09, 11:28 PM

For every hack that cries global warming, you have more on the other side crying a new ice age is coming. From here, it certainly feels like the Earth is doing both to an extreme. Our summers have been baking over 100F while the winters are going below 34F... I don't recall the weather ever being this extreme here. LA was supposed to have moderate weather all year round with nothing going past 50s in winter and 90s in summer.

BTW, I hate Al Gore. That man is the most hypocritical, conniving, arrogant, piece of work to hide behind non-science and claiming he is somehow doing us a favor.

**thanantos** · 11-25-09, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Xiphos

Regardless of what you believe in the creation of life in the universe, it's an excellent example of academic persecution.

Makes me wonder though. Ben Stein being a noted conservative what makes his movie any more credible than Michael Moore's?

(I have never seen any of Michael Moore's movies for the same reason I didn't watch Stein's)