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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    I know but I really am trying to simplify this and not recreate the wheel here. The basic fact is that there is a mechanism to insure nobody will pay taxes on basic necessities.

    Roger, it is called the prebate. It is a work of genius by the way. Disciplined people will use it to replace and outperform Social Security.

    How does the prebate work?


    All valid Social Security cardholders who are U.S. residents receive a monthly prebate equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The prebate is paid in advance, in equal installments each month. The size of the prebate is determined by the Department of Health & Human Services’ poverty level guideline multiplied by the tax rate. This is a well-accepted, long-used poverty-level calculation that includes food, clothing, shelter, transportation, medical care, etc. See chart in Figure 1 below.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Roger, it is called the prebate. It is a work of genius by the way. Disciplined people will use it to replace and outperform Social Security.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

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    I don't think you'll get the fight here you're looking for. I think there's some legitimate curiosity, and maybe some trepidation but I don't pick up any outright rejection. Hopefully they'll read the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    I don't think you'll get the fight here you're looking for. I think there's some legitimate curiosity, and maybe some trepidation but I don't pick up any outright rejection. Hopefully they'll read the book.
    I've already bought the book for people that expressed an genuine interest. By the way, all proceeds from "The Fair Tax Book" go to charity.

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    It's an inexpensive paperback that's a fast read.

    I was a Flat Tax fan before reading that book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    It's an inexpensive paperback that's a fast read.

    I was a Flat Tax fan before reading that book.
    Very true. I'm a reader but seriously it took me one night to read a book on taxes. My wife is not a political type....took her two.

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    About a 5-6 hour read, nutrient dense, but doesn't bog down in figures. Of course I'd prefer to see it done at the state level rather than nationally, but I lost that argument in 1865.

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    Kinda sounds like socialism to me...
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    It would be granting liberty to the people and shutterng the IRS, it's the opposite of socialism.
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    I hope he doesn't talk about a tax CUT. The last time he did (when he extended the Bush Tax Cut) cost me $120.00 a month in HIGHER TAXES. Can't afford another tax cut like thisl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    I hope he doesn't talk about a tax CUT. The last time he did (when he extended the Bush Tax Cut) cost me $120.00 a month in HIGHER TAXES. Can't afford another tax cut like thisl.
    That was so the rich could keep more of thier money. We must help these poor people or else they will not survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    The idiots in this Administration say that Welfare is good for th economy as it stimulates spending (by the welfare recipients) at stores, etc.

    That's the same as saying that crime is good for the economy because it stimulates spending by those purchasing burglar alarms, hiring more police and prison guards and spending by the victims to replace the stuff stolen, thus allowing companies to make and sell more products.

    They must have emptied the asylum when they hired these idiots to run this once great country.
    Some of the welfare dependent that I witness have $1800 on their ebt card. They make a large purchase and sell it on a street corner so they can buy their smokes and alcohol.

    Now that's stimulus money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMGreat101 View Post
    Some of the welfare dependent that I witness have $1800 on their ebt card. They make a large purchase and sell it on a street corner so they can buy their smokes and alcohol.

    Now that's stimulus money!
    And as long as it is allowed to continue you will have people voted into office that will continue to allow it. Catch 22?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    And as long as it is allowed to continue you will have people voted into office that will continue to allow it. Catch 22?
    More the reason NOT to vote Democratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrackhd View Post
    That was so the rich could keep more of thier money. We must help these poor people or else they will not survive.
    When W did his tax cuts I got to keep more of my money. This argument that only the rich got breaks is flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    When W did his tax cuts I got to keep more of my money. This argument that only the rich got breaks is flawed.
    Whatever keeps you in large cuts of dead animal flesh.

    werd up brah!
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